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re: NFL Prospect Grades for LSU Players

Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57447 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:41 pm to
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Why wouldn’t they just make it out of 10...


I’ve always wondered that
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4981 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:59 pm to
I don't have a huge problem with most of the rankings, I only wish most posters could finally differentiate between "dominate" and "dominant", "lineman" and "linemen", "freshman" and "freshmen."

It's an easy thing to do. Really easy. If you can't do it correctly, people will doubt your intelligence and doubt your opinion. It's completely fair.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
1979 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:52 am to
Dude these rankings have 8.0 as the highest, and you put stingley at a 7.3?!

You’re clueless.

He’s an 8.0.

Chase at a 6.9 is also a joke. He’s far higher. You’re rating for Marshall- terrible too.

I could go on.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:54 am to
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Chase at a 6.9 is also a joke. He’s far higher.


Agreed
Posted by LSUsonGRADdad
Member since Feb 2020
2 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 6:59 am to
Jacob Phillips should have stayed another year. He could have been the primary ILB, racked up tackles, gotten some post-season recognition which may have propelled him into at least the late rounds.
Posted by KTiger85
Member since Oct 2018
659 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 7:39 am to
Best of luck to Queen, but I don't see how he is rated 3rd highest from our team. Better than Fulton and Delpit? Nope.
Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2074 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:30 am to
I think it will be rare if you see anyone over 7.5, which was the highest rated in Clowny. Chase Young is one of the best prospects coming out in years and he's rated a 7.4. They gave Jefferson at a 6.4. You have to understand they will find any flaw and put it on there, just read some of the negatives.

I think they are trying to avoid the 8 point score and anything over 6.7 is elite. Here's this year's class with the brand new system. I thought I was actually being a homer with some of the scores. You can also see past years, no one over 7.0 in '19

NFL graded players
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 10:38 am
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9613 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:53 am to
Delpit did not have a great year, so I don't see Queen being rated higher than him too surprising.
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:23 am to
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Jacob Phillips should have stayed another year. He could have been the primary ILB, racked up tackles, gotten some post-season recognition which may have propelled him into at least the late rounds.



I know it seems hard to realize now but Phillips WAS the primary ILB this season. He had almost 30 more tackles than Queen. Queen just has the eye popping athleticism that makes scouts see him as a better prospect.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:46 pm to
Burrow should be a 12
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:51 pm to
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Burrow should be a 12


The scale should be 0 to Burrow.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:55 pm to
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Fulton, Kristian (CB) SEC 6.3
Jefferson, Justin (WR) SEC 6.4


Too low.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29956 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:01 pm to
Why? Queen made way more plays than Phillips and he didn’t even start full time until like week 3

Sure Phillips is a consistent tackler but how many times last year did he make a play and you were just like wow?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:05 pm to
Where did you come up with Fulton's number? He's not on the link you just provided.

ETA: They've got him up now. Being the 10th rated CB is a joke.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Bigfig
Member since Oct 2019
56 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 6:06 pm to
I guess, if one never played the game at this level, then one wouldn't know that each player has a job to do. Splash plays here and there doesn't make a player superior, but consistently doing your job does. Phillips consistently did his job
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14439 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 6:57 pm to
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Everyone is forgetting the fact that Phillips and Moses were the best in pass coverage for linebackers for the 2018 season. I didn't see a drop-off in Phillips' pass coverage skills in 2019.

Phillips was terrible in coverage. To be honest other than queen covering backs and TE's the rest of the LB's were not very good in coverage. Stevens struggled as well. We need to get faster quicker guys at the Lber position to be able to cover the spread. Offense bailed out our defense in alot of games this year.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Bigfig
Member since Oct 2019
56 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 5:05 pm to
How many catches were made on Phillips. I think zero because he covered his guy and made the QB throw somewhere else. 2 times was he out of position in coverage
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19044 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Queen, Patrick (LB) SEC 6.7


I could have sworn I saw an article yesterday that had Queen as the #15 player in the draft... I dont believe it yet but I hope it is genuine for his sake, $$$$
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:53 pm to
I guess Burrow’s 9” hands kept him from being a 7.3
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 8:13 pm to
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Jacob Phillips should have stayed another year.
I'm tired of hearing this, the kid is gone, get over it. He'll be fine in the NFL where he will learn a lot more than he could at LSU, he had a solid season for LSU leading in tackles, and just turned in a solid combine performance. He will def make a NFL team and will probably start in time.
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 8:14 pm
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