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re: Need help understanding something RE: Naz in NBA
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:40 pm to OGtigerfan87
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:40 pm to OGtigerfan87
I think he was a one and done guaranteed because everybody around him thought he was a sure fire first rounder without even stepping on the court and couple that with what they thought would be a stellar year would push him into a lottery pick. I don’t think he ever thought of the possibility of going in the 2nd otherwise he shouldn’t have come to school at all if he was going to leave no matter what
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Shadow of a doubt? That’s laughable.
Bet? Who’s spot is he gonna take?
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:53 pm to Howyouluhdat
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thought he was a sure fire first rounder without even stepping on the court
You realize teams have been watching him play against the other elite talents on the AAU circuit right? Its not like this year at lsu is the first time hes faced comparable competition/talent.
and as the other guy in this thread already said. NBA teams would much rather develop their players in the G league than trust a college that is concerned with winning games equally to trying to develop players to do it
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:57 pm to Sandtrap
because a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:05 pm to sgallo3
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NBA teams would much rather develop their players in the G league than trust a college that is concerned with winning games equally to trying to develop players to do it
The higher you are drafted, the more money and investment a team will put into you. If you are a lottery talent that is graded in the second round after just one college year, you think hard about developing in college for the lottery, who cares what NBA teams think about development.
A lottery rookie contract will be a lot higher and more secure than a contract after having a good developmental league season.
LSU fans are so stubborn, just because most of us were sure he was one and done before the season doesn't make it a foregone conclusion right now.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:11 pm to Tigercat
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If you are a lottery talent that is graded in the second round
If you are lottery talent you will go in the lottery. I think you are confusing talent and skills. You develop skills, you are born with talent
Even if your mock draft is showing Reid in round 2, it's not gonna happen. 7 footers with his athleticism that have shown the ability to take over games like he did in the Under Armor AAU circuit dont fall out of the first round
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:29 pm to Sandtrap
I think he's been shown to be soft against tougher competition. I'm not sure how the extra spacing in the NBA will help bc he doesn't have 1 area of his game that's extremely solid that he can rely on while he works on the others. I'd say the mocks saying 2nd round are pretty accurate as of now.
And I know the NBA drafts on potential, but he hasn't shown much of that either. I hate it for the young man, he's really struggled a lot this season. Hopefully, he starts getting hot here down the stretch and in the tourneys, when we'll need it most.
As of right now, I think he has a choice that wasn't there before the season began. He may be gone no matter what, but I'm not so sure that's the right thing to do.
Whatever happens, I'm glad he came to LSU to be a part of this rebuild, when he could have pretty much hand picked his destination. I respect the hell out of him for that.
And I know the NBA drafts on potential, but he hasn't shown much of that either. I hate it for the young man, he's really struggled a lot this season. Hopefully, he starts getting hot here down the stretch and in the tourneys, when we'll need it most.
As of right now, I think he has a choice that wasn't there before the season began. He may be gone no matter what, but I'm not so sure that's the right thing to do.
Whatever happens, I'm glad he came to LSU to be a part of this rebuild, when he could have pretty much hand picked his destination. I respect the hell out of him for that.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:32 pm to sgallo3
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7 footers with his athleticism that have shown the ability to take over games like he did in the Under Armor AAU circuit dont fall out of the first round
He’s not a 7 footer for one and two he’s never taken over a game at the college level much less a fricking defenseless AAU squad. His stock has fallen since he’s been at LSU. There’s no debating that
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:36 pm to Srobi14
I don't claim to be an expert, but I wouldn't be shocked either way.
Obviously for some, the NBA is just a form of lottery ticket, and people want to "get paid". They serve their penance in college the one year, and then jump as soon as they can, before they turn into pumpkins (I guess that is what will happen). Reid might do this, and may well go high based on the fact that he's tall and muscular, coordinated, and has a decent outside shot.
There's others that enjoy basketball every step of the way, and it sure seems like Wade's got a nice program here. People seem to like him and each other, and the team seems to be building upwards. Reid might say "hey, I'm 10x the physical prospect Grant Williams is, but he scored 18 on me, and I scored 1 on him. I could stay another year and hone my post moves and game, become SEC POTY and maybe move into the lottery, and maybe win a title"... he has the body and talent, he could use the game. Doing that, he might avoid the developmental leagues, and play in front of huge crowds, instead of wherever those leagues play.
Neither way would be "right" or "wrong".
Obviously for some, the NBA is just a form of lottery ticket, and people want to "get paid". They serve their penance in college the one year, and then jump as soon as they can, before they turn into pumpkins (I guess that is what will happen). Reid might do this, and may well go high based on the fact that he's tall and muscular, coordinated, and has a decent outside shot.
There's others that enjoy basketball every step of the way, and it sure seems like Wade's got a nice program here. People seem to like him and each other, and the team seems to be building upwards. Reid might say "hey, I'm 10x the physical prospect Grant Williams is, but he scored 18 on me, and I scored 1 on him. I could stay another year and hone my post moves and game, become SEC POTY and maybe move into the lottery, and maybe win a title"... he has the body and talent, he could use the game. Doing that, he might avoid the developmental leagues, and play in front of huge crowds, instead of wherever those leagues play.
Neither way would be "right" or "wrong".
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:37 pm to sgallo3
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Even if your mock draft is showing Reid in round 2, it's not gonna happen. 7 footers with his athleticism that have shown the ability to take over games like he did in the Under Armor AAU circuit dont fall out of the first round
Maybe. But I will trust former scouts and people who follow the NBA draft for a living over your opinion or mine.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:37 pm to Imber
His ceiling is high just on measurables, but his play flat out sucks. There are 10 better big men just in the SEC that know how to finish down low. Reid still does not know what a pivot foot is!!!! Look at the tape, it is sad
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:40 pm to Sandtrap
You can’t understand that the NBA Developmental Leagues have more talent and better coaches to mold college kids to play basketball for a living than colllege ball? Are you naive or just plain retarded?
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:57 pm to PTLSU
quote:And you don't understand this is a college team's board, not a board devoted to NBA developmental prospects?
You can’t understand that the NBA Developmental Leagues have more talent and better coaches to mold college kids to play basketball for a living than colllege ball? Are you naive or just plain retarded?
I, and I speculate a great many others here, am interested in Naz Reid because he plays for LSU. I'm all for players getting rewarded for their skills, but I don't really care about the NBA in general, and definitely not about developmental leagues.
He's here, I root for him. He's not a star (yet). If he stays and becomes one, I will forever remember him. If he leaves this year after 1 season as a nice complement, then I will forget about him.
I'd prefer he stays, and that he becomes a great player here, and that LSU has more great seasons. That's not really a tough thing to understand.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 7:57 pm to sgallo3
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If you are lottery talent you will go in the lottery. I think you are confusing talent and skills. You develop skills, you are born with talent
Even if your mock draft is showing Reid in round 2, it's not gonna happen. 7 footers with his athleticism that have shown the ability to take over games like he did in the Under Armor AAU circuit dont fall out of the first round
I'm well aware of the difference between talent and skill. And I could point to several examples of uber talented players that dropped out of the lottery due to numerous factors including work ethic or off the court troubles. Talent isn't a surefire ticket to being picked in the lottery.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 8:09 pm to Goldrush25
He isn't even in the same class as Brandon Bass.
Bass was SEC Player of the Year and was a second round pick.
I don't see anything from this young man to show he is ready for the NBA.
I love him on this team as he has really become a good rebounder and has a great attitude. Hope he stays around.
Bass was SEC Player of the Year and was a second round pick.
I don't see anything from this young man to show he is ready for the NBA.
I love him on this team as he has really become a good rebounder and has a great attitude. Hope he stays around.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 8:31 pm to Salamander_Wilson
Reid is most definitely gone after this season. His game translates much better in the NBA than college.
The pick and roll between him and Waters is evidence. He can that 3 from the top of the key with ease.
That plus the spacing in the NBA will make things much easier for him.
The pick and roll between him and Waters is evidence. He can that 3 from the top of the key with ease.
That plus the spacing in the NBA will make things much easier for him.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:46 am
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:24 pm to ECOTIGER
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His game translates much better in the NBA than college.
People keep regurgitating the same shite other posters say. What about his game translates to the NBA? He doesn’t have an identity at all on the offensive side and can’t play defense to save his life. All he does with consistency is hit an occasional 3. He’s not knocking down 3’s like an NBA big. He’s not a shooter. NBA bigs can pick and pop and are not timid in the paint
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:34 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Bet? Who’s spot is he gonna take?
Bet what? Read my post again, moron. I said he could go in the second. Just nothing is set at this point. Lots of basketball to be played.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:52 pm to LSUFreek
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What's crazy is that all he needs is a Tyrus Thomas Final Four tournament run, putting-it-all-together showing off all his potential talent, and he's a Top 5 pick.
I don't think there is anything he could do that could make him a top 5 pick.
Posted on 2/24/19 at 9:54 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Bet what? Read my post again, moron. I said he could go in the second. Just nothing is set at this point. Lots of basketball to be played.
Bet your posting priveledges he goes in the second, honeybunch
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 9:54 pm
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