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siliconvalleytiger
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Myths that have now been resolved
We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams

8 wins is not an automatic at LSU regardless of HC

LSU doesn't just reload year over year

You can't just hire good coordinators and 'manage' them





Fat Bastard
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams



sure as frick did with miles!

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8 wins is not an automatic at LSU regardless of HC



it should be with PROVEN head coaches. O IS NOT PROVEN!! saban and miles set this standard. this is NOT pre-2000 LSU with shite facilities and when we spent NO MONEY on coaches.

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LSU doesn't just reload year over year


we still managed 8 wins a year since 2000! until now!


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You can't just hire good coordinators and 'manage' them



which is why we DID NOT want anymore CEO type HC. we wanted a guy who can call one side of the ball!
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HMTVBrian2
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
Ed orgeron has not learned from his mistakes at ole miss and evolved into a legitimate head coach


Fat Bastard
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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Ed orgeron has not learned from his mistakes at ole miss and evolved into a legitimate head coach




that much is apparent


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MrSpock
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
We win OOC home games.


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MetArl15
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
I can name 20 coaches without effort that could have this LSU team reach 8 wins. This is a terrible SEC and you have 4 wins built in against shite competition.


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TN Bhoy
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
O the disciplinarian


^ that’s my favorite


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Milk
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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Ed orgeron has not learned from his mistakes at ole miss and evolved into a legitimate head coach




You have this wrong. At Ole Miss he micromanaged which was his main mistake.



Now hes hands off and making all new mistakes.



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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams 


we most certainly do with competent coaching.

troy has zero 4 star players


Pelican fan99
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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We don't have the talent to just lineup and beat lesser teams
BS. LSU should never lose to Troy


RogerTheShrubber
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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troy has zero 4 star players


They have better football players. Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early.

LSU has great athletes, most of the football players left last year and are in the NFL


siliconvalleytiger
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
You're right. But we did.


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rocket31
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
6th most talented team according to recruiting rankings past 4 years


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rocket31
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early.

That's absurdly false


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Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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They have better football players. Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early. 

LSU has great athletes, most of the football players left last year and are in the NFL


i hope youre fricking kidding. good god.

its amazing how many people on here actually believe their opinion outweigh the opinions of people PAID to evaluate not only highschool but collegiate talent.

youre off your meds if you really believe troy has better football players than lsu.


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cheeznet
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
I think some of you are missing the point. His point is that who the coach is actually does matter.


siliconvalleytiger
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
Yep


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Goldrush25
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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I think some of you are missing the point. His point is that who the coach is actually does matter.




Which shouldn't have taken getting a bad coach to figure out.

How many top programs have we seen ruined by a bad hire? Why people thought LSU was immune to that is beyond me. Whether people want to admit it or not, Les Miles did have some coaching talent to keep LSU where it's been for as long as he did, talent that Orgeron doesn't have and never has had.


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tigerborderjumper
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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They have better football players. Star ratings are based on projections, most 4 and 5* kids mature early.

LSU has great athletes, most of the football players left last year and are in the NFL


B/S. They have much better coaches than LSU. Saban, Meyers, Dabo, and other GOOD coaches stay dominant using the same talent evaluation that LSU uses. LSU has O. That explains everything.


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H-Town Tiger
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re: Myths that have now been resolved
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we most certainly do with troy has zero 4 star players

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BS. LSU should never lose to Troy


You guys are missing his point. Well Rick mentioned it at least. Coaching matters. You or i could not step into Alabama and win with their current roster We get too caught up in zero sum thinking coaches are either great or they suck. We let our simplistic view that you either win a title or you fail. We don't understand or like nuances. Lost in all the blizzard of Miles hate people are gonna realize the school doesn't just recruit it self, you can't just roll anyone out there and win with our talent.


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