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re: My Final Take on the Outback Bowl

Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:35 pm to
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Iowa will make the true frosh beat them in his first start.

Well, they should start preparing their collective anus. #5Heismans comin' in hot.
Posted by Fleur De Lethal
NOLA
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:41 pm to
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According to Brewhawk:

We lose by 2 scores with it having a chance to get real ugly and can lose by 3-4 TD's if Jennings doesn't play well.

If we get the same offensive output from Jennings as we would from Mettenberger, it makes it an even game.

Our running game will be limited even when they go 2-deep zone.

We are biased and self-absorbed but he is rational in his thought process.



SMDH


Don't forget all that will happen plus OBJ and Landry can combine for 300 yards and we'll still lose by ten....because the Iowa DB's will hold them to short catches.
Posted by CO_hawk
Fort Collins
Member since Dec 2013
81 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:41 pm to
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If they truly feel this way then Iowa wins by 3-4 TDs.


If LSU gets similar output out of the QB position that it got all season (no guarantee I know), what do you think the score will be? This is not a rhetorical question. I'd like to hear your response.

I'm not super confident in this game because any time you start a young inexperienced QB, the offense could literally come to a grinding halt.

Having said that, if Jennings is prepared and plays well, LSU wins this one going away. I don't think anyone who is reasonable could make a different prediction. LSU would have to lay a huge egg (I've watched enough football to recognize this as a possibility).

But, if we are talking about matchups, on paper, comparing the seasons of both teams, no reasonable person could predict an Iowa win without a poor performance at QB.

I honestly think that 9...maybe 10 SEC teams would beat Iowa on an average day. Could LSU play to that level? Sure. But, if both teams play up to their potential, this one is easy to predict.

Iowa will probably run the ball fairly effectively. How much offense LSU is able to put together is unknown. A Mettenberger led offense would have pretty much been a guarantee to score 35+ with a real shot of going well over 40. Who knows what we'll score now. If we only score 20, it will be close.


I hope your not serious... but you probably are and everyone, even your own fans think your an idiot.
No way a middle of the pack team from another conference would even be competitive in the SEC..."cough" "cough" Missouri and Texas A&M "cough"... your pathetic.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:44 pm to
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No, you don't know Iowa football because you're too self absorbed and don't care about Iowa.

I checked out Iowa, but you sidestepped the post.

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Not if we limit you to under 100 yards on the ground (now you can really start arrogantly laughing).

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I won't laugh, but 5.1ypc and 200ypg are rof.
Iowa lost to every ranked opp faced and only have a decent avg rush ypg from the 6 mid majors/FCS faced, while LSU exceeded avg ypg vs 2 ranked foes.
If LSU stays dedicated and has 40+ rush att as I expcect, Iowa won't survive it.
Same goes for your vaunted D which looks much more earthly vs decent competition.
Disclaimer: You won't hear me or many other Tiger fans gushing about the 2013 LSU D, although I think they fared as well or better than Iowa vs ranked foes.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36833 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:44 pm to
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CO_hawk


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your an idiot


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your pathetic
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:47 pm to
Lol I am serious 59 they are legends . I mean they have accomplished a lot in football . Truly legends , I bow to Iowa
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:47 pm to
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1. Because you don't have Mettenberger. Iowa will make the true frosh beat them in his first start.

2. Iowa's defensive game plan is to make a team one dimensional. You'll be forced to beat us through the air.

3. Our LBs can run and the DL HAS played well enough to allow them to make plays.


Hate to break it to you but LSU will run the ball. Only way to take the running game out of this is to go up big early.

LSU will literally run into 9 and 10 men into the box.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3049 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:50 pm to
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In the end, I see Iowa winning 24-13 or 33-23. A greater spread wouldn't surprise me in the least, especially if Jennings struggles.


LSU certainly had its struggles this year (See Ole Miss and Bama second half) but Wut? We destroyed A&M, the "real SEC team" you wanted to play and beat a team thats about to play for a National Championship by two touchdowns. The outcome of the game will depend alot on which LSU team shows up but you do realize that even when we didn't show up this year the result was a loss to OM by three. Iowa winning by 10 or 11 points is laughable.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:52 pm to
So we can put away that bullshite excuse that if Iowa wins it's only because LSU didn't want to be there. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That will be the real reason. And it will be honestly believed by most of the LSU fanbase before and after the game.

Give up now Brew, if u think u are going to change anyone's opinion on that in here.

Dont take my word, go back and read how many in here gave Clemson any credit last year.

Isnt that same Clemson team in a BCS game this year?

Here's my take:

Iowa is good and very motivated, way underrated, similar to Clemson last year. LSU is soft on defense.

Imo, Iowa wants this game more than LSU and will present plenty of challenges. This should be a true test for CLM and his young Tigers. Even if Miles has this team ready, he will not be given any credit for it. But let an OL get a false start.......

Gotta love this fanbase.


Miles will have LSU ready enough and win 31-27.






This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:52 pm to
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1. Because you don't have Mettenberger. Iowa will make the true frosh beat them in his first start.

So how does Mettenberger being out mean that Beckham and Landry will be ineffective?
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:53 pm to
I said legends ! Like Jerry Rice , Walter Payton , John Elway , Iowa football . All true legends .
Posted by MattLSU
New York
Member since Dec 2011
195 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

1. Because you don't have Mettenberger. Iowa will make the true frosh beat them in his first start.

2. Iowa's defensive game plan is to make a team one dimensional. You'll be forced to beat us through the air.

3. Our LBs can run and the DL HAS played well enough to allow them to make plays.


This is where you lose me. We don't have Mett, you're going to force us to the air. Ok, fine.

You're talking about what Iowa is going to do, schematically to force LSU to be one dimensional, as it differs from wether Mett was playing.

But then you say you're going to play the safeties deep and beat the run with 7. That's not forcing us to be one dimensional, it's respecting the pass and kind of daring us to run.

Now, if I'm confusing you with another poster then let me know, but I'm pretty sure you're the one who said Iowa would play 2 deep shell..which is exactly what Mett would see. So, essentially that means with a true freshman at QB your strategy is exactly the same.

What would make more sense to me, would be to bring one of the safeties down and actually dare LSU to pass..but from what I've read you don't think that will happen.

If Iowa keeps their 2 safeties back LSU will run, run and run some more...and in effect I think you'd be making it easier on the frosh.

Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:00 pm to
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So how does Mettenberger being out mean that Beckham and Landry will be ineffective?


Well, mostly because it takes a QB to get the WR the ball.

Wow. With intellect like this I'm starting to like our chances more and more.
Posted by MattLSU
New York
Member since Dec 2011
195 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:04 pm to
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Well, mostly because it takes a QB to get the WR the ball.




What a coincidence, LSU is actually bringing a quarterback with them. Maybe someone leaked your info.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 4:06 pm
Posted by CO_hawk
Fort Collins
Member since Dec 2013
81 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:04 pm to
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I said legends ! Like Jerry Rice , Walter Payton , John Elway , Iowa football . All true legends .


Ha ha good one, your a smart one.
Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:05 pm to
I wouldn't be surprised with all the focus on Mett/Jennings & LSU's passing game if Hill/Magee end up going off.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:05 pm to
But that's not what you said

You said that your DBs would keep our WRs in check, which no one has done all year
Posted by CO_hawk
Fort Collins
Member since Dec 2013
81 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:08 pm to
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Well, mostly because it takes a QB to get the WR the ball.




What a coincidence, LSU is actually bringing a quarterback with them.


Brewhawk, he looks pretty good against the second to worst team in the SEC, the second to worst team that was confused and not sure how to defend against him. This is a top 10 team with Jennings playing, I mean come on he's got one mostly lucky drive under his belt.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:09 pm to
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But that's not what you said

You said that your DBs would keep our WRs in check, which no one has done all year


I said they would play to limit big plays and keep the receivers in front of them.

That doesn't change the fact that it still takes a QB to make a receiver effective.

Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:09 pm to
Thank you for the compliment . That's a great response also . You must be from mason city
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