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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:19 am to Nix to Twillie
Moscona makes good points that any unbiased person can agree with.
His problem is his over the top delivery. Makes him look childish and hard to take seriously.
His problem is his over the top delivery. Makes him look childish and hard to take seriously.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:29 am to Nix to Twillie
"Cinnnnnnn Caaaa Natttiiii"
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:30 am to xiv
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The reason that this is happening is because Cincinnati is one of the 25 best teams in the country, and tOSU beat them by 42.
Ok put Cincy in the Big 12. You really think they are still ranked and only have 2 losses? If Ohio State played at Texas in week 2 instead of at home against Cincy do you think they still win by 42?
You are comparing a power 5 school to a group of 5 school and they aren’t even the best group of 5 school. I am willing to bet Texas would be favored over Cincy if they played this weekend.
I’m not saying that Cincinnati is a bad team and doesn’t deserve to be ranked but the committee is telling teams to schedule group of 5 schools instead of power 5 schools for OOC games.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:33 am to xiv
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The reason that this is happening is because Cincinnati is one of the 25 best teams in the country, and tOSU beat them by 42
They have 2 loses, both to the only ranked teams they played. Any other year they would not be sniffing the top 20.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:33 am to Nix to Twillie
DEAD frickING NUTS!!!! If LSU beats UGA and is not #1 in the final poll the CFP committee has absolutely no credibility...
They really need to be hammered this week in the media for the bullshite rankings they just came out with this week...
They really need to be hammered this week in the media for the bullshite rankings they just came out with this week...
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:39 am to TigerLunatik
quote:Ok.
The head of the committee disagreed with you on live television.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:39 am to geauxtigers33
quote:Irrelevant. Count what happens, not what we pretend what might happen.
Ok put Cincy in the Big 12. You really think they are still ranked and only have 2 losses? If Ohio State played at Texas in week 2 instead of at home against Cincy do you think they still win by 42?
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:44 am to xiv
It boils down to committee proping up Ohio St opponent in rankings and devaluing LSU opponents. All done to justify Buckeyes as # 1. If we beat Georgia,#4, and don’t get to 1 it will be clear to anyone where the bias is.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 8:45 am
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:47 am to xiv
A “genius” usually applies ALL the facts to a given situation, before he or she comes to a conclusion. Clearly not the case here.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:56 am to hondo
quote:No it doesn’t. Just look at the numbers. It’s obvious.
It boils down to committee proping up Ohio St opponent in rankings and devaluing LSU opponents.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:58 am to xiv
Who assigns the points and by what measurements? Who, other than Ohio State, has Cincy played? Their group of 5 conference isn’t even as strong as the PAC 12 and the PAC 12 is crap!
On the other hand, Texas is in the Big 12, which, although not as strong as some of the Power 5 conferences, is clearly better than the PAC 12.
These are just some of many examples.
Also, home vs away should clearly be a factor in the determination of these metrics, which is NOT the case!
In general, using only one metric should not determine the such an important decision. Nor should giving one method more weight than another. Not even the BCS did that.
On the other hand, Texas is in the Big 12, which, although not as strong as some of the Power 5 conferences, is clearly better than the PAC 12.
These are just some of many examples.
Also, home vs away should clearly be a factor in the determination of these metrics, which is NOT the case!
In general, using only one metric should not determine the such an important decision. Nor should giving one method more weight than another. Not even the BCS did that.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:59 am to xiv
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The vast majority of ranking systems have tOSU at #1 and Alabama nowhere near the top.
Well the AP and Coaches certainly have LSU with twice the first place votes as OSU.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:59 am to LSUFM
quote:Thanks for your input. I’ve been doing this for xvi years. When you see numbers like this,
A “genius” usually applies ALL the facts to a given situation, before he or she comes to a conclusion. Clearly not the case here.
School - w% - ow% oow%
tOSU 1.000 .621 .549
LSU 1.000 .553 .551
...the team with the better numbers is ranked ahead of the other team virtually every time.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:01 am to xiv
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The reason that this is happening is because Cincinnati is one of the 25 best teams in the country, and tOSU beat them by 42.
I've had to address the phoniness of Cincinnati as a "top 25" win so many times, that I'm just copying and pasting my words every time someone tries to side with OSU on this argument. So here you go, xiv:
"Who has Cincinnati beaten? Their "best" win is a 3 point win over currently unranked UCF. They have a 10 point win over 4-8 UCLA, an 11 point win over 4-8 Tulsa, a 15 point win over 4-8 Houston, a 3 point win over 4-8 East Carolina (starting to notice a trend with these records?) a 3 point win over 4-8 South Florida. Hey! They won by 2 over 8-4 powerhouse Temple and had a 45 point win (way to break the trend, Cincy!) over Uconn, who are 2-10 (...Oh, never mind). They did beat 8-4 Marshall by 38. I guess that totally validates them and cancels out all the other slop performances against awful teams, and the fact that they lost to both ranked teams they played."
Now please think of a valid reason for Cincinnati to be in the top 25. And don't just say "because". That's not a reason.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:03 am to xiv
16 or 14?
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xiv xvi
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:08 am to geauxtigers33
UT and Aggy would beat Cincy and UMich
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:11 am to xiv
You’re using one metric to justify your position. What you’re ignoring is that there’s clearly more than one metric out there. Some more valid than others, but they should use every valid method at their disposal to come to their conclusions.
What’s that mean? Do you get paid to do it? Do you work in the college football rankings profession? What are your qualifications?
I mean, I’ve been doing this longer than that, but I don’t have any of those qualifications. However, I do have a genius IQ and use logic in my given profession.
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I’ve been doing this for xvi years.
What’s that mean? Do you get paid to do it? Do you work in the college football rankings profession? What are your qualifications?
I mean, I’ve been doing this longer than that, but I don’t have any of those qualifications. However, I do have a genius IQ and use logic in my given profession.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:11 am to LSUFM
quote:Me, since it was a hypothetical. I’ve now given you a visual aid that explains how LSU jumps 0 spots but Baylor jumps 5 for beating the same team. If you still don’t get it, I don’t know what to tell you.
Who assigns the points and by what measurements?
quote:99 of the 108 rankings in the Massey Composite have Ohio State at #1.
In general, using only one metric should not determine the such an important decision.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:12 am to LurkerTooLong
quote:And their decades of unreliability are why we don’t swear by them anymore.
Well the AP and Coaches certainly have LSU with twice the first place votes as OSU.
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