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re: Moscona ripping Ed O And Joe Alleva
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:35 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:35 pm to The Pirate King
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Again, at the time he was viewed by most as one of the best up and coming coordinators in football and highly sought after.
But your previous post nearly labels him a cancer, so did the whole world finally see in 11 short months that he was suddenly a cancer?
Honestly, I don't care how he's viewed, I care about how he fits into the vision, plan, etc. But if we're hiring on "views" only, sure that's what he had going for him.
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You won’t get an argument for me that he shouldnt have been vetted more firmly by O and staff, but there weren’t a ton of good viable options out there.
So then, relying a program structure that puts at the very top "hiring the best coordinator," is problematic because sometimes there aren't "good, viable options out there?" Right?
That maybe, having some expertise on one side of the ball to buffer against that is usually a good way to mitigate against that...?
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 3:36 pm
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:35 pm to BayouBengal99
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You all said this at the start of the year too. You all said this after the Troy loss. You all said this same shite over and over all season and we ended the season on a high note.
We are also having a successful recruiting season with a down year in LA, all while our fanbase turns on the coaching staff and LSU. That right there tells me all I need to know about the leadership. STFU
you could catch ed orgeron spitting in your food and find away to blame your food.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:35 pm to Shooter
I'd love to hear what Rohan has to say.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:35 pm to saintsfan22
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That dude just said as far as I'm concerned I don't want my D Line coach knowing what the OC is doing
I don't know who that was but I want to buy him a beer.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:36 pm to Freauxzen
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So then, relying a program structure that puts at the very top "hiring the best coordinator," is problematic because sometimes there aren't "good, viable options out there?" Right?
That maybe, having some expertise on one side of the ball to buffer against that is usually a good way to mitigate against that...?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:37 pm to The Pirate King
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I’m 99% sure he’s reading this, and posting here under one of the “sky is falling” usernames who have assured us that losing Canada is a disaster and the program is being ruined, etc.
That ATVS article about the possible OC replacements used the moniker #sauce.
It's safe to assume that all "news" outlets are getting their info from tRant at this point and passing it along as truth.
As such.. I heard Alleva was getting fired and they're bringing in Woodward..
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:37 pm to Goldrush25
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don't know who that was but I want to buy him a beer.
No doubt he posts here. Come forward Daniel. We all agree with you.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:38 pm to whatiknowsofar
Moscona has joined the Melt. Lucky he's got a home right here to feel safe and comfy in.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:39 pm to The Pirate King
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Then Tennessee and USC/UCLA screwed up too because they offered him the job too. It’s easy to act after the fact like this was some outcast that no one wanted.
Nobody is doubting that he's a good OC. That's what everyone is saying. The problem is if O couldn't work with him then he shouldn't have hired him. If the guy is a great OC and is producing, then maybe O needs to shut his mumbling mouth, swallow his pride and let the man work. Isn't that what you mouth breathers wanted? For O to stay out of his own way?
Of course, like I said, O isn't a real head coach so he has no idea how to put a staff together. I would imagine that his football ignorance was showing, Canada called him on it and O didn't like that shite. You see, the boss doesn't like when his underlings are better at shite then he is. There in lies the problem with hiring O as the head coach.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:39 pm to The Pirate King
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there weren’t a ton of good viable options out there
History would suggest that there are a ton of viable options out there. We simply don't have an AD with the football acumen to unearth the good ones.
I believe the extent of Alleva's search involved him pulling up the Broyles finalist list and saying "that guy."
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:40 pm to GeorgeReymond
Moscona is a bitch like Canada 2 fook heads
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:41 pm to The Pirate King
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Then Tennessee and USC/UCLA screwed up too because they offered him the job too
So your argument is that there are other idiots as well. Ok. I agree.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:42 pm to The Pirate King
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Then Tennessee and USC/UCLA screwed up too because they offered him the job too. It’s easy to act after the fact like this was some outcast that no one wanted.
Completely and totally irrelevant. Maybe he would have been a fit there. But apparently he isn't a fit with O, and O either never bothered to find out if he was a fit or he is too inept at evaluating and managing staff. There is no way this doesn't look bad for O.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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nothing will change at lsu until joe alleva is out on his arse
Not true, plenty will change. Right now, LSU is a top twenty five team... the longer Alleva is here (and Orgeron), they won't even be that anymore. It's sad.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:44 pm to INFIDEL
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The problem is if O couldn't work with him then he shouldn't have hired him
You don’t always find everything you need to know about someone in an interview when they’re kissing your arse, which I why I said that O and crew should not have taken face value and done more due diligence.
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If the guy is a great OC and is producing, then maybe O needs to shut his mumbling mouth, swallow his pride and let the man work. Isn't that what you mouth breathers wanted? For O to stay out of his own way?
He’s apparently not a GREAT OC. He’s a good OC that apparently was more headache than he was worth. I don’t pretend to know all the details and behind the scenes of LSU football, but if it wasn’t working, it wasn’t working. No sense in keeping someone around that you don’t want and that you don’t see eye to eye with.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:44 pm to The Pirate King
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Posthumously acting like Canada is the best thing to happen to offense in football history doesn’t change the fact that he’s been fired recently for personality conflicts with the head coach.
Then Orgeron failed to do his job properly by hiring him. If Canada is that hard to get along with and is known for job jumping. Why was he hired? Who didn't do the vetting process that's he was hired to do?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:45 pm to whatiknowsofar
Moscona is a capital "C" Clown
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:46 pm to BayouBengal99
Lol so you think having our young QBs and RBs learning a new system two years in a row is a good thing? You think not being able to settle personal differences in a profession is a sign of strong leadership?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:46 pm to The Pirate King
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Posthumously acting like Canada is the best thing to happen to offense in football history doesn’t change the fact that he’s been fired recently for personality conflicts with the head coach
And yet O had to have him! Said he was going after the best coordinator out there. And Canada fit that description in Os mind. If he was a troubled guy, O should have found that out and backed away. It’s on the head guy.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:49 pm to The Pirate King
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He’s apparently not a GREAT OC. He’s a good OC that apparently was more headache than he was worth. I don’t pretend to know all the details and behind the scenes of LSU football, but if it wasn’t working, it wasn’t working. No sense in keeping someone around that you don’t want and that you don’t see eye to eye with.
you are acting like this scenario doesnt look bad for O too.
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