re: Moscona hating on Danny Etling

Harris was terrible at this. Even when he wasn't 10' over their head he was so far off that it through the play off. He literally got players hurt by poor throws

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You are using all the game stats comparing to 2015. BH is a big reason our stats are lower THIS YEAR.

I love when you guys look at yards...as a key stat. Completely ignoring the fact that BH couldn't complete a 10 yyard pass and when he did he about got our recs killed. This offense is night and day better. Period.

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I know, I agree, and aknowledged that. The 2016 stats would be better taking A) BH out and then B) taking CLM out- those crappy 2nd halfs with DE.

I was too lazy for that. And the sample size might get too small. But even with the downward skew of both of them, the point still stands- 1st and 2nd downs are more productive leading to more options, and Coach O/Ensminger are taking advantage of that too. It leads to an overall more productive offense and the stats show that (with the downward skew)

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In short, what I was saying, the 1st & 2nd down production in the passing game is putting us in a better position now and the conversion rate bears that out.

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Truth is danny is very average.


I'll take "average" over ALL the 4 and 5 star "dual threat" QBs we've had over the last 12 years. IMO, he's much better than average. Decent arm, making the throws, leading the team.

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all we heard for months is 'if LSU can just get average QB play they will be dangerous/contender/etc".

We find out for sure next Sat.

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Now you are going on about JJ. The guy was one of the worst qbs in LSU history. This is all racial to you and it is obvious. You are a terrible poster.

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As always, what the frick are you talking about?

Statistically Etling is on par with JJ's 2009 season. That 2009 season was by far JJ's best season at LSU. Also, Etling has really turned it around since Miles was fired. His games under Miles aren't nearly as good as his last 3.

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You went on and on in the preseason about how BH was ahead of met.

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I literally did none of this. Link?

I think he's very comparable to Flynn.

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but I I think he is one of the best qb we have had since Flynn

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You realize that not only is that not saying much, it's basically saying he's better than really, really bad QBs? That statement means nothing considering we've had 1 viable QB since Flynn, so yea I'd hope he's "one of the best" since Flynn.

LSU has been looking for a "game manager" as QB for how many years now? It seems like Etling does just exactly that. What more do people want?

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Good god. Please tell me you aren't for real.

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Looking at your replies in this thread I think you are missing the point. So let me slow this down for ya...

Is Danny Etling playing better than Brandon Harris?
Yes.

Am I happy Danny Etling is starting over Brandon Harris?
Yes.

Now that we have gotten that out of the way let's be real. Etling has shown excellent poise under pressure and has made some heads up plays. His accuracy in the short and mid range passing game has opened up our offense against most teams. However, there are still areas of concern. Keep in mind having question marks is fine for a first year starter in our offense but you are acting like we are bad fans for pointing it out.

1.) Turnovers. If your skill-set is as a game manager you really can't have unforced turnovers. The completely unforced fumble against Auburn probably cost us the game looking back on it. The floating out pass that he throws has looked like a pick six in the making for weeks and we finally played against a defense athletic enough to snatch it. He can't throw that pass against good teams.

2.) Inaccuracy/inconsistency. As I said earlier, he has generally been good in this area but he has also made some odd throws. Turfing the ball or throwing it way over someone's head. This has hurt us during dry spells that we have had when we haven't been able to score for whole halfs. And the deep ball inaccuracy has been widely documented.

3.) Production. Stats are not everything but they have generally been low to middling for what it is worth. I don't think his production comes close to matching some of the QBs he is being compared to (with claims that he has better than them after playing half a season). Saying Etling is definitely better than QBs who have been more productive and have actually won big games for the Tigers on the road seems premature.

Flame on if this troubles you. I am rooting for him as hard as you. I just don't need to pretend that it is something its not to enjoy watching.

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Truth is danny is very average.

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First off Mascona is a D-Bag. If you don't like him don't listen to his show.

Really all LSU needed over the past several years was average Qb play. (With the exception of Mett).

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Actually it is saying a lot. Just not about our QBs.

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I don't get the need to prematurely crown the guy. Can't we all just admit that this is a week to week evaluation. Based on his play, he will be still in competition for his job next summer. This is reality.