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Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:40 am to JPLSU1981
Uhh you left off where Alabama COULD pass the ball last year. They were #34 in Pass Efficiency.
Meaning they chose to run and could pass if need be.
LSU is #113 in Pass Efficiency..
check your own link
Alabama was ALSO #5 in INTs thrown
Alabama was also #42 in TOTAL Offense
LSU is #102.
Alabama was also #22 in SCORING LSU is #65
There is NO comparison beween Alabama of 2009 and LSU's offense of 2010 you cant just cherry pick stats and leave off the major ones.
Meaning they chose to run and could pass if need be.
LSU is #113 in Pass Efficiency..
check your own link
Alabama was ALSO #5 in INTs thrown
Alabama was also #42 in TOTAL Offense
LSU is #102.
Alabama was also #22 in SCORING LSU is #65
There is NO comparison beween Alabama of 2009 and LSU's offense of 2010 you cant just cherry pick stats and leave off the major ones.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:43 am to Colonel Flagg
McElroy was a leader. JJ is not
If Miles really wants to emulate Bama 2009, he will challenge Jefferson to step up and become a team leader.
If Miles really wants to emulate Bama 2009, he will challenge Jefferson to step up and become a team leader.
This post was edited on 9/30/10 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:45 am to TigerTailsSoup
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He would have to fire himself and hire Saban to do that.
There should be no doubt that Saban was effin awesome at LSU. Best coach ever to set foot in Tiger Stadium. The way he let Bama beat him like a rented mule 31-0 in Tiger Stadium was genius. And our fans were genius enough to keep him around another season after going 8-5 and getting torched by Bama, Auburn and Va. Tech. Our super knowledgeable fans realized his ingenious plan and let Saban execute it to perfection.
So maybe the real question is... why isn't Miles trying to emulate 2002 LSU? Obviously in 2002 Saban set up the rest of the SEC to think we sucked and then BAM! he unleashed the beast in 2003. They never saw it coming. We could have beaten Bama 31-0 in 2002, but Saban saw the big picture and realized that by losing that battle on purpose we could win the war and bring home a crystal football in 2003. Sheer genius! Greatest coaching mind EVER!
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:49 am to The_Pistol
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Ummm...Bama didn't have a Heisman Trophy-winning back last year either.
You're entitled to your own dumbass opinion, but not your own facts.
And Ridley -- believe it or not! -- is not being seriously touted by any reasonable person as a Heisman candidate.
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On December 12, Ingram won the Heisman Trophy in the closest vote in the award's 75-year history.[20] Ingram is Alabama's first Heisman winner, the third consecutive sophomore to win the award, and the first running back to win the award since Reggie Bush (Stripped due to NCAA sanctions). Ingram was also selected to the 2009 All-America Team by the Associated Press and AFCA.[21][22]
On January 7, 2010 Alabama defeated Texas 37-21 to win the BCS National Championship. Ingram received honors as Offensive MVP after rushing for 116 yards and 2 touchdowns on 22 carries.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:50 am to Catman88
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There is NO comparison beween Alabama of 2009 and LSU's offense of 2010
None, none whatsoever...
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:51 am to JPLSU1981
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Technically, through 12 games they did not have a Heisman winner as their RB.
Seriously? That's your argument?
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:51 am to pdxlsufan
dude, Ingram won the Heisman after the season. You're missing his point that Alabama did not have a Heisman winner at RB throughout the season, as Ingram HAD NOT yet won a Heisman. Actually, he wasn't even on the Heisman map through the first half of 2009.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 11:53 am to pdxlsufan
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That's your argument?
I'm not making any argument. You missed his point completely, though.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:10 pm to JPLSU1981
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dude, Ingram won the Heisman after the season. You're missing his point that Alabama did not have a Heisman winner at RB throughout the season, as Ingram HAD NOT yet won a Heisman. Actually, he wasn't even on the Heisman map through the first half of 2009.
bullshite. You're playing a semantics/logistics game.
The fact is Ingram was universally viewed as a Heisman candidate by week 4 of the season. He was on everyone's list of Heisman candidates. Nobody with any credibility is touting Ridley -- believe it or not! -- as a Heisman candidate.
Here's what ESPN had to say re: Ingram at this time last year:
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Mark Ingram, Alabama: Like Gerhart, the Alabama sophomore is a money player who shrugged off the first contact. Like Gerhart, Ingram got stronger as games got longer. In the fourth quarter against South Carolina, Ingram got every one of the 68 yards the Crimson Tide needed to score the touchdown that put the Gamecocks away, 20-6. Ingram rushed for 1,542 yards, an Alabama record, and 15 touchdowns. He is the best offensive weapon on the No. 1 team in the nation.
The best offensive weapon LSU has is PP and he's not even on offense. But soon enough, he'll be seeing some snaps on the offensive side of the ball. And... are you ready for this... PP is a legitimate Heisman candidate!
From ESPN:
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4. Patrick Peterson, LSU: I got a chance to see Peterson up close last weekend at the West Virginia-LSU game and couldn't have been more impressed. Peterson blocked a field goal, shut down an entire side of the field and returned a punt 60 yards for a touchdown. After his score, he struck the Heisman pose in the end zone. The no-fun police flagged him for 15 yards. But the way he's playing on defense and special teams, Peterson should be allowed to pose all he wants.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:10 pm to Catman88
"There is NO comparison beween Alabama of 2009 and LSU's offense of 2010 you cant just cherry pick stats and leave off the major ones. "
Well it's only 4 games in so in reality it could be said it's in the realm of possibility that it's similiar. We have played a nice schedule thus far. Who were Bamas first four opponents last year? The philosophy is quite similar for sure.
Well it's only 4 games in so in reality it could be said it's in the realm of possibility that it's similiar. We have played a nice schedule thus far. Who were Bamas first four opponents last year? The philosophy is quite similar for sure.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:15 pm to JPLSU1981
I actually think the rush offense and D numbers will improve a bit. If(a huge if)the LSU pass offense reaches #80 this team could be special IMO. This due to the fact that LSU will have a better D and S/T combo than most of their opponents if not all.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:23 pm to geauxjo
How many sub 100 rating games did Bama have last year?
McElroy finished the season with a 140 rating
17 TDs and only 4 ints.
FOUR INTS! Jefferson already has that in 4 games!
McElroy also had 2500 yards passing JJ is on pace for HALF that.
McElroy had 2 sub 100 yard games last year one the result of being pulled very early due to blowout and he still had more yards than JJ inb 2 games this year.
There is nothing remotely simular between LSU's 2010 offense and Bama's 2009 offense.
McElroy finished the season with a 140 rating
17 TDs and only 4 ints.
FOUR INTS! Jefferson already has that in 4 games!
McElroy also had 2500 yards passing JJ is on pace for HALF that.
McElroy had 2 sub 100 yard games last year one the result of being pulled very early due to blowout and he still had more yards than JJ inb 2 games this year.
There is nothing remotely simular between LSU's 2010 offense and Bama's 2009 offense.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:25 pm to JPLSU1981
Only one problem with that theory Hoss. In 2009, Bama had low passing totals because it truly didn't need them.
I'm pretty sure McElroy completed better than 50 percent of his passes last year as well.
I'm pretty sure McElroy completed better than 50 percent of his passes last year as well.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:28 pm to mtntiger
McElroy season last year is light years better than what JJ has produced this year.
His TD to INT ratio alone blows JJ out of the water.
Bottom line is that he kept the offense on the field when need be and didnt turn the ball over. Two things JJ hasnt come remotely close to doing this year.
LSU is on pace to being LSU of 2009 on offense not Alabama..
His TD to INT ratio alone blows JJ out of the water.
Bottom line is that he kept the offense on the field when need be and didnt turn the ball over. Two things JJ hasnt come remotely close to doing this year.
LSU is on pace to being LSU of 2009 on offense not Alabama..
This post was edited on 9/30/10 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:31 pm to JPLSU1981
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I'm definitely frustrated with the passing game, but it's hard to argue with the formula....
Great defense, great special teams, solid running game ... this formula has won a lot of different football teams at every level of play a lot of games.
Well...you don't need to pass a lot...but you need to be more efficient doing it.
I'm ok if we only put the ball up in the air 20 times a game. But if we can get 130 yards instead of 80-100 and pick up 1-3 more 3rd down conversions and sustain drives then I'm happy. We have also been turning the ball over too much for how little we throw it.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:34 pm to Powerman
I'm guessing the whole point of the OP was that we are winning with defense, special teams, and a running game.
If we add in a positive turnover margin, I could see good things happening. Yet another reason why JJ is at QB and not Lee (not that I agree with it), but still it is part of Miles' reasoning.
If we add in a positive turnover margin, I could see good things happening. Yet another reason why JJ is at QB and not Lee (not that I agree with it), but still it is part of Miles' reasoning.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:40 pm to TIGERSby10
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Yet another reason why JJ is at QB and not Lee
Jefferson is on pace to throw 13 ints.. Not to mention how many times he has fumbled the ball or a fumble was caused by a bad pitch or catch on the option.. (No option with Lee takes away that probable turnover)
What LSU needs is just someone that can convert on 3rd and 8. And to stop penalizing themselves when they do pick up the first. We have NEVER EVER seen Lee put in the situation where he just had to manage the game. He was always playing from behind in 2008. Even when he played in 2009 he was playing from behind.
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:44 pm to Catman88
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We have NEVER EVER seen Lee put in the situation where he just had to manage the game
So all the games we were winning in '08 when all Lee had to do was manage the game just never existed in your mind?
Posted on 9/30/10 at 12:47 pm to TIGERSby10
Which games were that?
Did the complete lack of a defense in 08 never exist in your mind?
WHICH games did LSU get up early and just had to manage the clock and let our defense win the game?
WHICH ONE??
We even played from behind versus fricking TROY!
Did the complete lack of a defense in 08 never exist in your mind?
WHICH games did LSU get up early and just had to manage the clock and let our defense win the game?
WHICH ONE??
We even played from behind versus fricking TROY!
This post was edited on 9/30/10 at 12:48 pm
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