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re: Miles on the recognized want to ameliorate LSU's passing aptitude

Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:42 am to
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94773 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:42 am to
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How many times are people going to fall for this schtick?


There's a silver lining to it. If he doesn't change, he's fired
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2952 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:56 am to
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Yeah you are right. LSU never throws the ball. The worst disappointment was the year we had Mett and Landry and Beckham and we still didn't throw the ball.


So you pick 1 year out of 12 and that is your argument? I am going to ask you a question, Gray Tiger. Doubt you answer since your shtick is to ridicule and bring nothing to a thread. Are you happy with the quarterback play since Miles has been here, minus your 1 season? If not, who do you put blame on?
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:07 am to
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Miles on the recognized want to ameliorate LSU's passing aptitude


Call me crazy but I always thought the bigger issue was the inability to be creative in the running game to compensate for the inconsistent passing game.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42084 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:07 am to
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Lip. Service.


This. Until we see results on the field, I ain't believing anything Miles says regarding the passing game.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:10 am to
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Call me crazy but I always thought the bigger issue was the inability to be creative in the running game to compensate for the inconsistent passing game.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:12 am to
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So you pick 1 year out of 12 and that is your argument? I am going to ask you a question, Gray Tiger. Doubt you answer since your shtick is to ridicule and bring nothing to a thread. Are you happy with the quarterback play since Miles has been here, minus your 1 season? If not, who do you put blame on?



Since the prevailing schtick of the anti-Miles mob is to ride with one theme even in the light of absolute falsehood, I'll answer you.

That Flynn guy wasn't too bad and that Russell guy wasn't exactly chopped liver and that Perrilloux kid did ok in my book. We have already mentioned Mett in case you forgot.

So if you count them up, in Miles' tenure there have been 4 pretty damn good QB's that played at LSU.

Who do you credit that for?

As to my adding anything, what does repeating the same tired old crapola about QB's add anything? What is new and/or original about that?

Thanks for your support.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:16 am to
You're really going to include Perrilloux?

Flynn had a nice year in 2007, J-Russ in 2006, Mett in 2013. Outside of that, we've been sub-par or bad every year at the QB position. I have faith in Harris FWIW.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107500 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:17 am to
Been saying for years the teams that passes well are the ones who dedicate their practices to passing well. Even more than the playboy or scheme you have to practice the shite out of passing to get good at it.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:29 am to
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Anthony Jennings and Brandon Harris combined to rack up 420 passing yards and threw for four touchdowns as the White team secured a 45-6 victory over the Purple team Saturday


Spring game, Spring game, Spring game.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:30 am to
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Yeah you are right. LSU never throws the ball. The worst disappointment was the year we had Mett and Landry and Beckham and we still didn't throw the ball.



Do you know what our balance was in 2013? 62/38. Do you know where LSU ranked in attempts that year? 108. Balance is our problem. Your hazy recollection that we threw the ball one year more than 30 percent of the time does not a conclusion based on facts make.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31148 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:34 am to
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threw the ball one year more than 30 percent of the time


whoa whoa whoa! that is crazy talk
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:58 am to
I will believe it when I see it. Too many years this has been the mantra in the offseason, only for us to see a RB smash into a wall of defenders every single play.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64549 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:02 am to
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That Flynn guy wasn't too bad and that Russell guy wasn't exactly chopped liver


We should hire the guy who coached Russell's entire career and Flynn for all but his redshirt senior year at LSU.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30180 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:07 am to
Some of you must be about 12 years old.

Remember this?


207-352 for 2,609

192-296 for 3,082

But by all means let's let BH throw to the receivers we have and use LF as a 3rd down back.
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2952 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:11 am to
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So if you count them up, in Miles' tenure there have been 4 pretty damn good QB's that played at LSU.


Exclude Perrilloux because he played very little. So out of Miles tenure you hang your hat on 3 years of descent qb play and that absolves him of criticism?

quote:

Who do you credit that for?


I credit Miles for bringing in Mett. He did not bring in the other two.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:14 am to
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Do you know what our balance was in 2013? 62/38. Do you know where LSU ranked in attempts that year? 108. Balance is our problem. Your hazy recollection that we threw the ball one year more than 30 percent of the time does not a conclusion based on facts make.




So the key to success is passing attempts?
I think I would take 3,000 yards passing over 50% attempts with fewer yards but that's just me.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:20 am to
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So the key to success is passing attempts?
I think I would take 3,000 yards passing over 50% attempts with fewer yards but that's just me.


No. Reading and understanding is something you absolutely have to get better at. You said "remember 2013, you say we never threw the ball nah nah nah."

To wit, you actually said this little gem:

quote:

Yeah you are right. LSU never throws the ball. The worst disappointment was the year we had Mett and Landry and Beckham and we still didn't throw the ball.



You really laid on the smarm in response to someone. I took your implication about how in 2013 we threw the ball a lot and showed that your perception was not borne out by the actual facts, a known problem you have.

Further, I said balance is our problem. Balance is the only free lunch in offensive football. A lack of predictability makes everything an offense does more effective. You took that to mean that the amount of passing attempts is the measure of a good offense because you are intellectually bankrupt and are more interested in a point of view where no criticism is warranted than actually openly and honestly discussing the real shortcomings.

For all of your smarm on this subject, and on the subject of the coaching acumen of all of our coaches for that matter, you sure do frick up responding to things a whole lot. Do you just make up fake arguments to respond to because responding to real ones is too hard for you? Or do you truly and deeply not understand how to respond to what is argued, especially when one is directly refuting something that you implied? I think that if you took the arguments as they came instead of being intellectually dishonest and results-oriented, you probably wouldn't be so painfully wrong and make all of the logical fallacies you routinely do.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:25 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:22 am to
Brace yourself. He's about to say Miles is better at coaching football than you are at your job.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:25 am to
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Brace yourself. He's about to say Miles is better at coaching football than you are at your job.


If that's where he goes, then I've already won the debate.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30180 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:28 am to
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No. Reading and understanding is something you absolutely have to get better at. You said "remember 2013, you say we never threw the ball nah nah nah."


edit: never mind. that wasn't nice.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:39 am
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