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re: Miles offered OC job to Ensminger
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:23 am to LSUcajun77
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:23 am to LSUcajun77
Sounds terrible? My mistake. I should have put quotes around "convinced".
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Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:23 am to beauxroux
Not when the HC is Orgeron.
Here’s a fact : He is not a offensive minded coach.
He needs to just let Ensminger coach and we’ll all find out.
Here’s a fact : He is not a offensive minded coach.
He needs to just let Ensminger coach and we’ll all find out.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:24 am to beauxroux
Nah you’re good. I was just saying in general.
It sounds so bad, but it was the truth.
It sounds so bad, but it was the truth.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:25 am to beauxroux
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It goes sideways and Orgeron will be all up in that offense, watch!
I would hope and expect the HC to do so, when things go sideways.
That's fair, but does he step in asking for solutions from offensive staff or does he go in and try solve it himself?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:26 am to LSUcajun77
quote:hell, I can do that, why not make me the coach? It's not too difficult to find really good coordinators. I'll hire them and then do nothing. And I'd do it for a tenth of what O's making.
If Orgeron just turn his head set off and let’s the coaches coach, he could be successful.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:28 am to LSUcajun77
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Here’s a fact : He is not a offensive minded coach
I own a company. I let my employees do their jobs-- unless things go sideways. I may not be perfectly versed in all aspects, but as the man in charge, if things get off rails, it's my job to get them back on track.
LSU HC is no different. If you want O to do things that great coaches do... sticking his nose into any aspect of program that is going sideways (as you put it) is what he should do.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:30 am to atltiger6487
As a HC you're just an on the field manager during games and vetoing calls as needed... plus making the WTF calls when needed. Les was good at those calls and yet, bad as well.
Some of the offenses during the Les Miles era looked pretty balanced, but when Cam was brought in... it seemed to go south.
Some of the offenses during the Les Miles era looked pretty balanced, but when Cam was brought in... it seemed to go south.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:34 am to TigerLunatik
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That's fair, but does he step in asking for solutions from offensive staff or does he go in and try solve it himself?
Good point. I don't know his management style. Both methods can be effective, depending on staff. Frankly-- I don't see this as rocket science. We all clamor for more passes to TE, passes downfield, etc. Do I have a problem with HC saying, "Stop running the toss dive and throw to the TE"? No. Even if he doesn't consult with the offensive staff. Then, at half, (or when defense is on field) meet with the Offensive staff and ask for solutions. But that would be my style.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:38 am to Bayou
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He's the Head Coach. He calls the shots. Why would a reasonable OC desire to Coach under him and be muzzled.
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“[Pitt] was a special place with Coach [Pat] Narduzzi,” Canada said at his introductory news conference. “He allowed us the freedom to do our job, and Coach O certainly said that [he would too].”
Now, all of that feels like a broken promise — on both ends. Orgeron’s promise not to meddle in his offensive coordinator’s plans, part of his undoing as head coach at Ole Miss, was not fulfilled. “I’m the head coach,” Orgeron said this Wednesday. “And we’re going to do what I want to do.”
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:40 am to Solo Cam
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Coach O is the head coach. Whatever he tells me to do, I’m going to do,” Canada proclaimed when he was introduced as LSU’s offensive coordinator last December.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:40 am to Bayou
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Bayou
Wanna know how I know your IQ is sub-80?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:45 am to Chimlim
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Ensminger told O he didn't want it either, O had to talk him into it.
Is there a link for this? I see it thrown around a lot on here.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:48 am to beauxroux
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LSU HC is no different. If you want O to do things that great coaches do... sticking his nose into any aspect of program that is going sideways (as you put it) is what he should do
Yes, you’re right, my point is we’re fricked if Orgeron needs to run the offense.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:48 am to ibldprplgld
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quote: Ensminger told O he didn't want it either, O had to talk him into it. Is there a link for this? I see it thrown around a lot on here.
No link. But going from less than perfect memory-- in 2016 E had to be convinced. I didn't get that impression in 2018.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:49 am to ibldprplgld
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At first, Steve Ensminger declined coach Ed Orgeron's request for him to be LSU's interim offensive coordinator.
"No," he said he told Orgeron.
LINK
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:49 am to Bmath
Im admittedly one of “those people”.
So ensminger REALLY didn’t want to be OC.
So ensminger REALLY didn’t want to be OC.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:51 am to LSUcajun77
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Yes, you’re right, my point is we’re fricked if Orgeron needs to run the offense.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:52 am to TigerLunatik
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At first, Steve Ensminger declined coach Ed Orgeron's request for him to be LSU's interim offensive coordinator
Good research. But that was interim. I don't recall that same scenario for 2018 OC
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:55 am to Likeadog
quote:Why is no one hiring LES???
Miles offered OC job to Ensminger
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:56 am to Chimlim
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O had to talk him into it.
Ace recruiter!
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