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re: Miles Firing 1 Year Later
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:04 am to cole_cole_world
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:04 am to cole_cole_world
"Continuity" for a flailing era seemed like a great idea right?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:04 am to cole_cole_world
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Has been 1 year since Miles got the boot. How do you feel about everything that has happened in the wake? All things considered, what has changed for the good and bad?
It was time and I was optimistic for two months. Then Alleva.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:09 am to tlsu15
It was a mistake. Fine with letting go of Miles if they upgrade or maintain coaching Status. O was a downgrade.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:16 am to Rebel
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LSU followed the same formula as TN did when firing Fulmer. They got rid of their winningest coach ever without actual plan in place to improve the situation.
100% this.
LSU should have been so ready to roll with a new coach it wasn't even funny. For as conceited as the Coaching Changes board was up until the end of the season, I don't think any fans would turn their noses up at Larry Fedora, Mike Gundy or Kyle Whittingham at this particular moment.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:19 am to RuLSU
I think there was a plan....it was just a really lousy one
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:19 am to RuLSU
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Larry Fedora
certainly not my first choice by his resume his infinitely better than O's and he would have put a fun offense on the field.
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Mike Gundy
he was my choice after herman and jimbo. dude has Ok. State in the big 12 race it seems like every year.
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Kyle Whittingham
solid coach, better resume than O, don't know if he'd fit in here though.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:21 am to Goldrush25
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Hmmmm, that sounds like a Tiger Ree talking point...
LOL, so membership sign ons cant be new? So The Rant should prohibit new members from signing??
And this Tiger Ree, is he supposed to be the only person that hated MILES.
Id bet my life, there are more Miles haters, than miles lovers. THATS WHY HE GOT FIRED
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:36 am to 1999
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better resume than O,
this is a very long list
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:38 am to BilJ
correct. that would be 99% of fbs coaches.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:42 am to BilJ
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looking back I wish we would have allowed him to finish out the season and then O never gets a look for this job. Who knew what seemed like such a great day, would end up so badly for us
USC wasn't won over from O's record from the interim role, so it seemed like the idea from some was that it didn't have to matter in this instance here unless he won out entirely.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:43 am to cole_cole_world
If Alleva had a premonition of this shite, pretty sure he would wait.
That said, he blew 12m on it, so....
That said, he blew 12m on it, so....
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:49 am to cole_cole_world
LSU waited about three seasons too long to send him packing. He made his mark but went no where fast after 01/09. As a result LSU put itself in Al Gore's Lock Box and we now have a HC who has precious little business being so at LSU.
Will be a while before this mess clears, about five seasons, four at best but more likely five.
Will be a while before this mess clears, about five seasons, four at best but more likely five.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:52 am to c on z
I had a bad feeling about the whole ordeal following O's presser, you could tell it was a guy running an election and if we had the slightest turnaround would somehow find himself in the running for a job he had no business being up for. The man is a good salesman, I'll give him that.
That presser was basically a love letter to the anti-Miles faction of the fan base
That presser was basically a love letter to the anti-Miles faction of the fan base
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:53 am to cole_cole_world
It's hard to make a wholesale change to offense without having personnel problems.
We currently have a ton of TE's & FB's that we don't need for the system we are trying to run.
The previous system could mask our weaknesses with power sets. Two TE's and a FB which we run over 90% of the time.
The only answer until we have the right personnel is to run more plays to make defenses pay for run blitzes I.e. Screens, draws, quick slants & quick pass to the RB like what u saw Saturday with Brennan to Williams in the third quarter.
We currently have a ton of TE's & FB's that we don't need for the system we are trying to run.
The previous system could mask our weaknesses with power sets. Two TE's and a FB which we run over 90% of the time.
The only answer until we have the right personnel is to run more plays to make defenses pay for run blitzes I.e. Screens, draws, quick slants & quick pass to the RB like what u saw Saturday with Brennan to Williams in the third quarter.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:00 am to 1999
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solid coach, better resume than O, don't know if he'd fit in here though.
At some point, I went through and made a list of coaches who fit the "Les Miles" criteria, or the criteria Skip Bertman used to replace Nick Saban with Les Miles.
The coach needed to recruit successfully at a "secondary" or smaller school. The coach needed to have a few upset victories. The coach needed to have no red flags or infractions, etc.
It was a short list of names. Kyle Whittingham was one of them. I'd take a 57 year old CA Mormon who could coach a successful offense and win games any day of the week.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:11 am to RuLSU
The pains of miles allowing bama to rape us for years on both lines. At least we're not florida, auburn, Arkansas, a&m, Tennessee or ole miss. It's not that bad yet. We won't fall too far because bama has everyone else sucking too.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:15 am to PlaylikeJeter
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We currently have a ton of TE's & FB's that we don't need for the system we are trying to run.
Exactly what kind of system do you think we're trying to run? He used a bunch of the same personnel groupings at Pitt that he's using now.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:15 am to BilJ
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I had a bad feeling about the whole ordeal following O's presser, you could tell it was a guy running an election and if we had the slightest turnaround would somehow find himself in the running for a job he had no business being up for. The man is a good salesman, I'll give him that.
No doubt. I can see how he's an effective recruiter. He knows what people want to hear and gives it right to them with no idea on how he's going to deliver.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:23 am to Rebel
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LSU followed the same formula as TN did when firing Fulmer. They got rid of their winningest coach ever without actual plan in place to improve the situation.
I think this is the best and most succinct description I have seen yet. As "internet-over-played" as the following is, I literally think that LSU followed this plan:
1) Winningest coach ever is getting stale
2) Fire said coach
3) ???????
4) Profit
Nobody can really argue with 1 and 2....it is 3 and 4 that have turned out to be a bitch.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:26 am to cole_cole_world
He needed to go but w just made the wrong hire.
Should've been jimbo and once he declined it should've been gundy or the guy at Va Tech.
O should have been the last resort.
Should've been jimbo and once he declined it should've been gundy or the guy at Va Tech.
O should have been the last resort.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:32 am
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