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re: Miles defenders: a summation of the issues most have with Miles.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:25 am to Geauxgurt
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:25 am to Geauxgurt
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Stop acting like the 2004 season was so horrible because LSU lost in a stinking bowl game.
Miles inherited a program that was the class of the SEC West. 2001 we won the SEC. 2002 Arkansas beat us on a hail mary to win the West (yes I know we beat Kentucky on one as well). 2003 LSU dominated the West and won the BCSNC. 2004 LSU was one play away from winning the West. The team had won two SEC Championships, 1 BCS Bowl Game (2002 Sugar Bowl) and the BCSNC within the five years prior to Miles taking over.
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:27 am to Geauxgurt
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Stop acting like the 2004 season was so horrible because LSU lost in a stinking bowl game.
Especially since Miles's bowl record (which used to be a bragging point) has become rather suspect.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:29 am to Mo Jeaux
Dude get with the damn program according to some here saban left miles a trash heap. 
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:33 am to Fat Bastard
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So chizik and Malzahn in 4 years have not won 2 sec titles and a nAtty? Which is what miles has in 9 years soon to be 10? Wow.
The intellectual dishonesty of some here is amazing. Yet sad.
They also have three 5-loss regular seasons seasons in that time frame, including an awful 3-9 season.
Before 2009? Add on a 4-loss regular season in 2008, then a 5-7 season in 2008.
Since 2005, LSU has had one season with more than three regular season losses. His consistency during his tenure has been literally unmatched by any other program. Obviously, since Saban got to Alabama, that program has been more successful than LSU. Has any other, though? Florida was arguable, until they had a 6-loss season, a 5-loss season, and a losing season in the past 5 years. So not really.
To base a coach's resume off of nothing but titles (which is what many on here seem to do even if they don't realize it), is simply shortsighted and silly.
Yes, Auburn has had some great success over the past four or five seasons. But they've also had a very average year and a completely down-right terrible year.
The intellectual stupidity of some here is amazing.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:34 am to BayouBengals03
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They also have three 5-loss regular seasons seasons in that time frame, including an awful 3-9 season.
Before 2009? Add on a 4-loss regular season in 2008, then a 5-7 season in 2008.
Since 2005, LSU has had one season with more than three regular season losses. His consistency during his tenure has been literally unmatched by any other program. Obviously, since Saban got to Alabama, that program has been more successful than LSU. Has any other, though?
To base a coach's resume off of nothing but titles (which is what many on here seem to do even if they don't realize it), is simply shortsighted and silly.
Yes, Auburn has had some great success over the past four or five seasons. But they've also had a very average year and a completely down-right terrible year.
The intellectual stupidity of some here is amazing.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:43 am to AlxTgr
miles is the LSU HC. STOP, STOP all the bitching. the sec west is as tough as hell and miles has done a very good job. NO ONE will come to LSU and have more success over a 10 year period than miles. that said. lm has some faults and improvements need to be made VERY quickly.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:49 am to ellessuuuu
Well said NEGAmileser. Saban basically was a hair away from 4 straight west titles.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:53 am to keeper05
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I would hate to see my school become an also-ran.
TAF could not afford to allow this to happen.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:59 am to BayouBengals03
3 five loss seasons?? In that span? How? 2010 to 2013 is FOUR YEARS NOT FIVE. The span referred to by a previous poster was the last four years!!!! Go back and read his post again.
But let's go ahead and use your 5 years compared to miles' 9. Any difference hardware wise in sec titles and nattys? Nope. Most here couldnt care less about empty wins with no hardware.
But let's go ahead and use your 5 years compared to miles' 9. Any difference hardware wise in sec titles and nattys? Nope. Most here couldnt care less about empty wins with no hardware.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:02 am to Fat Bastard
At least I'm being consistent, I have not like Miles from the start.
When one of the first quotes from a veteran player after Miles' first spring practice was something along the lines of the atmosphere is just so much "friendlier." This was reinforced with Skyler Green's comments when he arrived in Dallas in 2006, where he commented that playing for Parcells was nice to get back to a disciplined style of football. This comment was coming after he spent one year under Miles.
When one of the first quotes from a veteran player after Miles' first spring practice was something along the lines of the atmosphere is just so much "friendlier." This was reinforced with Skyler Green's comments when he arrived in Dallas in 2006, where he commented that playing for Parcells was nice to get back to a disciplined style of football. This comment was coming after he spent one year under Miles.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:05 am to Fat Bastard
That's your response?
Your biggest take from that is a year discrepancy?
Sure, ignore the major point in my post, which is the overall consistency of our program compared to that of others.
Yeah, I think quite a few people in this thread fit into your "intellectual dishonesty" category. That's for sure.
Your biggest take from that is a year discrepancy?
Sure, ignore the major point in my post, which is the overall consistency of our program compared to that of others.
Yeah, I think quite a few people in this thread fit into your "intellectual dishonesty" category. That's for sure.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:25 am to keeper05
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As many have said, Harris was set up to fail. He should have been eased into the game with confidence boosting short yardage safe throws and running intermixed. Not running it 17 out of 20 times and putting him in repeated obvious passing downs in a hostile environment
Yep
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:29 am to JaxTiger10
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What do you not understand? Since 1987 lsu has 5 seasons where the team lost 2 games or less. Miles coached 4 of those.
And 3 of those 5 came in his first three years. Since 2008, he has 1 season with 2 losses or less. Hmm...
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:55 am to keeper05
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Just because I haven't taken to the Rant to voice my displeasure doesn't mean I haven't done it all this time via other means.
Oh I'm sure you have. A lot of people dislike Miles, this isn't new.
The people that complain, after losing to two of the top 5 teams in the country, keep saying there are better options out there. Where are they?
You people indicate that somehow Gus Malzahn is a better coach. If that's true why is Miles 2-1 against him?
....aaaaand how about Gene Chizik? Yup - Miles is 2-1 against him.
How about Kevin Sumlin? Yup, 2-0 against him too.
Everybody will acknowledge that Saban is the best coach in football, so that isn't debatable, but he ain't leaving Alabama.
Do you even want to go there with Hugh Freeze or Dan Mullen?
You seriously think they would do any better than Miles?
Yes he has somewhat undisciplined teams. Yes, he isn't perfect. But to fire a head coach with the kind of success he has had with 1 bad season is just dumb.
The new coach smell wears off with the first loss to a top 25 team
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:32 pm to ironsides
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The people that complain, after losing to two of the top 5 teams in the country, keep saying there are better options out there. Where are they?
You people indicate that somehow Gus Malzahn is a better coach. If that's true why is Miles 2-1 against him?
Some fair points. I do take exception to his record vs Malzahn. Malzahn is in his second year. He is 1-1 vs Miles. Plus, I would like to see those records once he and Sumlin rack up top ten recruiting classes year in and year out. I would imagine they will tip.
Did anyone feel Miles would of end up with the resume he has when he came from OSU? No one did. Nothing he did suggested that.
Bottom line is no one really knows what home run hire LSU could lure from their previous position, if any. Or what up and coming guy they can grab that would be an ideal fit.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:33 pm to ironsides
Who knows who we would get to replace Miles, if the scenario arose that we had to.
I think people might be disappointed.
I think people might be disappointed.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:43 pm to Fat Bastard
Totally agree wins with no hardware really sucks.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:38 pm to tigernation56
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Who knows who we would get to replace Miles, if the scenario arose that we had to.
Completely agree. Remember 2008 and 2009 when people wanted to fire Miles to hire Muschamp. He is doing terrible at a job with just as much resources if not more than LSU. Remember Tennessee's dominance, they have been the bottom of the barrel since firing Fulmer.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:53 pm to keeper05
Oh really like how Saban had several strokes this year because his players are out of position. Over and over and over.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:16 pm to Geauxgurt
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And 3 of those 5 came in his first three years. Since 2008, he has 1 season with 2 losses or less. Hmm...
Then Saban has 1 sec title and 1 bcs title with his own recruits.
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