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re: Milazzo’s bat will improve under Johnson
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:43 pm to DiamondDog
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:43 pm to DiamondDog
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Even if you want to quantify Milazzo in the +15 rate applicable and extrapolated to college, the amount of runs forfeited far exceeds what he is saving.
At his rate I agree.
Can no other catcher be decent enough on defense to start? It seems like everybody was cool with one of the top catchers drafted starting. Are they better defensively than Milazzo? I am genuinely asking, because I don't follow recruiting well.
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:45 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Milazzo will likely never be a great hitter, but can he improve some? You would hope he can.
And if he doesn't? It seems like even if he doesn't then it still doesn't matter to some. And that's fine if that's how you view it.
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So then the question becomes, with what else we have, how much will we suffer on the defensive side, and how much more will we gain on the offensive side.
I still say try the other guys if necessary and Milazzo can be a great defensive replacement.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:09 pm to Gallant_Gringo
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But I 100% expect JJ to improve his hitting enough to at least be decent. That’ll be all we need.
I can't wait to watch this team progress at the plate with JJ.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:07 am to upgrade
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If Milazzo can just hit .250 I’ll take that.
He doesn’t even have to hit .250; Even .200 would be enough as long as he keeps putting the ball in play, bunting well, advancing runners and working counts. But .160 is not enough, not if we have an alternative.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:08 am to DiamondDog
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You don’t understand. The defense we get from Milazzo saving 15 runs a game by not letting the ball roll to the back of the fence or throwing it into the stands after every pitch is invaluable.
There is no reason to even think about replacement if he’s batting .150. I mean, it not .100?
Martin Maldonado for the Astros is hitting .171. He is a .214 career hitter and has been a starter since 2011 in the MLB for multiple teams. So tRant knows more than MLB coaches about baseball than MLB managers. New baseball is about advanced analytics. If it wasn’t, Ks would be allowed to be where they are. Hitters are GARBAGE today in plate discipline. Managers don’t manage for hits/game. They manage to average more runs/game. And runs are the same as they’ve always been or better. It’s Weaver baseball management.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:23 am to Tiger1988
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Martin Maldonado for the Astros is hitting .171. He is a .214 career hitter and has been a starter since 2011 in the MLB for multiple teams.
This is misleading bull crap. He is a spot starter at best. He played one season of 138 games. The rest ranges between 47-80 games a year. His career average is .215. That’s almost 3/4 of a point better than Milazzo.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:28 am to DiamondDog
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This is misleading bull crap. He is a spot starter at best
Well, that's a lie. He's played in 66 games. So roughly 70%. That's not spot starting. He also has 200+ ABs, while your every day fielders have around 300. He's not the Astros spot starter at catcher. And he's hitting .171 this year.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:43 am to DiamondDog
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and has been a starter since 2011 in the MLB for multiple teams.
Never been a full time starter, ever.
Has played for 6 teams in 11 years for a reason.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:45 am to Gallant_Gringo
????????????
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:46 am to Lester Earl
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Never been a full time starter, ever.
Has played for 6 teams in 11 years for a reason.
Don’t try to reason with these ridiculous people. They’re trying to bring up one guy who isn’t a full time starter as proof Milazzo deserves a full time starting spot. These people are absurd and it’s even more absurd we sit here to reason with them.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:48 am to DiamondDog
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They’re trying to bring up one guy who isn’t a full time starter as proof Milazzo deserves a full time starting spot
Want to point out where I said Milazzo should 100% be the full time starter, no matter what, anywhere on here?
45 minutes later.... That's what I thought.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/18/21 at 10:37 am to Lester Earl
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Y’all said this past season he wouldn’t come out of the lineup regardless, and sure enough they started to sit him, and that would have continued had Travinski not gotten hurt.
Milazzo was starting to sit because he was beat up from catching so many games. I agree with you that he has to improve at the plate. But before they signed this HS guy I did not think that. There is no one else on this roster, not McManus or anyone else, who can displace what we had last year in Milazzo, at least not against top shelf SEC pitching.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 10:50 am to DiamondDog
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Here is the graph MLB uses to evaluate Defensive Runs Saved over a 162 game season.
Defensive Ability DRS
Gold Glove Caliber +15
Great +10
MLB is comparing a great catcher to a good catcher, because every MLB team has at least a good catcher in the wings. At LSU last year we did not have a good catcher in the wings; we had poor! Of course, the MLB schedule has a lot more games, so that lowers the amount for a college schedule.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 10:57 am to Penrod
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Milazzo was starting to sit because he was beat up from catching so many games.
lol nope.
He wasn't even catching every game to start the year, and was being pulled early in some games for pinch hitters.
He just wasn't hitting. He hit .162 in pre conference against shitty competition. That's why he started to sit.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:06 am to Lester Earl
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He just wasn't hitting. He hit .162 in pre conference against shitty competition. That's why he started to sit.
What was his conference BA? I think He finished hitting .135.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:17 am to Lester Earl
Since Travinski is injured I don’t think Milazzo’s roster spot is in danger yet unless he wants to go somewhere where he’s guaranteed to start. A freshman isn’t likely to take over the job full time so it’s probably going to be a case where all 3 get chances early in the season until the roles are sorted out.
Now if they manage to grab a starter quality guy in the portal, like Oregon State’s All PAC 12 catcher, that’s a different story completely.
Now if they manage to grab a starter quality guy in the portal, like Oregon State’s All PAC 12 catcher, that’s a different story completely.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:18 am to Tigerpride18
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I think over the year he saved more than he lost by not hitting
He had 7 RBI in 126 AB….
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:22 am to Tiger1988
Maldonado’s OPS is over .100 higher than Milazzo and his career OPS is over .200 higher than Maldonado. If Milazzo ran into some homeruns or knocked in some RBI it would be different. He had 7rbi all season. At some point, the defensive run saves can not make up for that.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:37 am to MOT
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unless he wants to go somewhere where he’s guaranteed to start
Yea they will need to carry 3 catchers however, if he wants a future in baseball he’ll have to play, and if he is playing once or twice a week at LSU, does that benefit him
These two guys are legit threats to his playing time. I know people keep wanting to twist it. I mean you saw what was tolerated from Travinski last year. He was terrible on defense and still got starts. He wasn’t even hitting, but that were that desperate
Johnson is an offensive guy. I wouldn’t be shocked if he sacrificed some D for some O, most of the time
Posted on 7/18/21 at 11:43 am to SammyTiger
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What was his conference BA? I think He finished hitting .135
He hit like .150 in SEC games
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