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Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:08 pm to The Cool No 9
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our perspective..
If anyone’s arguing this.. idk if that’s still a big narrative I haven’t followed this season much at all but they’re usually, mostly, inferior opponents that can be beat with fundamental play and execution. I know we don’t pitch our best in these games but there are certainly plenty of them-opportunities to rack up wins during the season. All of that adds up at seasons end when it’s time to setup tournaments. Most of our midweek games are in state opponents. Why would anyone claim that? I can’t understand. Additionally it seems like the flagship would benefit greatly from beating everyone in Louisiana as we naturally should so there would be a lot of emphasis on beating the southern’s and NSU’s of the world. Not a huge concern of mine but thought it’d be a chance to share ideas-just so I can see what others say.
They do matter but it's not the end of the freaking world to lose them.
Simple answer, we don't have the pitching depth and we are going up against the other team's Ace, like with Southern a few weeks ago.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:09 pm to The Cool No 9
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Midweek games don’t matter
Either you are rantard or simply just don't know how to count.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:14 pm to The Cool No 9
The midweek games can be frustrating. Good coaches will use them to give back up players some game time, especially pitchers. The frustrating part is when you have your normal position players in and they can't hit these in state pitchers. You can't tell me any good hitter goes to the plate and doesn't care about getting a hit or not.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 5:02 pm to The Cool No 9
No single game let alone a mid week game matters in baseball. Ultimately the sum total of all the games will matter but melting every time we lose one is where the constant reminders come from. So since we haven’t lost ALL of the mid week games, there’s no reason to freak out when we do.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:26 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Skip made comments during the telecast of the Wally Pontiff classic game saying "because of the ranking system and how it's computed, the midweek games mean more now than when he coached". Something to the effect of losing 30 points in rankings for losing to inferior,midweek teams.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:29 pm to des4271
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Skip made comments during the telecast of the Wally Pontiff classic game saying "because of the ranking system and how it's computed, the midweek games mean more now than when he coached". Something to the effect of losing 30 points in rankings for losing to inferior,midweek teams
Then explain to me why we were 6 in RPI, despite those midweek loses, before we dropped games to Mizzou?
Skip also said, "I didn't hire CPM to win games in Feb and March." (Which means, I hired him to win the damn SEC, and make it to Omaha).
You don't think maybe Skip made a comment about a midweek game having some value because he was on a telecast FOR A MIDWEEK GAME?
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:32 pm to The Cool No 9
It’s the dumbest take Moscona has ever come up with and it’s not close. It would be no different than saying a third of the sec games don’t matter. Because his whole point is that you can lose every midweek game and win 20 sec games and still host. So by that logic, who cares if they started 0-10 in the sec, right? Since only 20 games matter.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:34 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Skip also said midweek games are important. He’s said it multiple times.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:40 pm to ell_13
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So by that logic, who cares if they started 0-10 in the sec, right? Since only 20 games matter.
If you start out 0-10, and then win 20 straight, wouldn't you likely win your division? Wouldn't that likely get you a national seed? Why does it matter when you lose them? Are you suggesting that it does?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:48 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I'm just passing on what he said, I personally don't like the fact they lose to midweek opponents but I also understand the dynamics and approach to those games from a coaching standpoint are different personnel wise (pitching).
I don't agree with the mindset (by fans) that the midweek games don't matter. If they didn't matter, they wouldn't go in the win or loss column. Where I think it would make a difference, (all the losses to midweek opponents) is if your team is on the bubble of making it to the postseason or choosing your team to host a regional or be a national seed over another closely ranked team (look at the body of work).
I don't agree with the mindset (by fans) that the midweek games don't matter. If they didn't matter, they wouldn't go in the win or loss column. Where I think it would make a difference, (all the losses to midweek opponents) is if your team is on the bubble of making it to the postseason or choosing your team to host a regional or be a national seed over another closely ranked team (look at the body of work).
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:50 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Sigh.
Put another way so you can understand. Win only 20 games. All sec. vs the “worst” sec opponents. Only those games matter? No. Of course not. They all have importance at the time you play them. Period. Some are more important than others. But each means something at that time. 40 wins is a big deal. 20 sec wins is a big deal. Who you lose to. When you lose to them. Who you beat. When you beat them. All of it plays a part. When you get a National seed at the end, it’s not simply one thing or another. That’s ignorant af.
Put another way so you can understand. Win only 20 games. All sec. vs the “worst” sec opponents. Only those games matter? No. Of course not. They all have importance at the time you play them. Period. Some are more important than others. But each means something at that time. 40 wins is a big deal. 20 sec wins is a big deal. Who you lose to. When you lose to them. Who you beat. When you beat them. All of it plays a part. When you get a National seed at the end, it’s not simply one thing or another. That’s ignorant af.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:50 pm to des4271
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Where I think it would make a difference, (all the losses to midweek opponents) is if your team is on the bubble of making it to the postseason or choosing your team to host a regional or be a national seed over another closely ranked team (look at the body of work).
Check out the link I posted earlier. There is gobs of info which suggest that what you just said is 100% wrong.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:52 pm to ell_13
Then explain to me why we were at #6 in RPI before the Mizzou series, despite those midweek loses?
Also, explain to me why the link I posted did some SEC teams get a national seed with many midweek loses, while others didn't despite a dominant midweek record?
I'm not saying the midweek games carry no meaning. I'm not saying I like losing them. This season has been a struggle even for me, and I'm usually always sunshine pumping. Facts are facts though. And some of the melting, and comments, are totally unwarranted.
You do this every few years. LSU is playing bad and you are super fast to jump off the ship. LSU starts doing good and you will be the first one telling everyone else how dumb they are for doubting this team. Exact same as Elleshoe with basketball.
Also, explain to me why the link I posted did some SEC teams get a national seed with many midweek loses, while others didn't despite a dominant midweek record?
I'm not saying the midweek games carry no meaning. I'm not saying I like losing them. This season has been a struggle even for me, and I'm usually always sunshine pumping. Facts are facts though. And some of the melting, and comments, are totally unwarranted.
You do this every few years. LSU is playing bad and you are super fast to jump off the ship. LSU starts doing good and you will be the first one telling everyone else how dumb they are for doubting this team. Exact same as Elleshoe with basketball.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:58 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
That post was in cases where the team's records were good in conference and of course you are gonna make the postseason. You also didn't compare or we can't know whether the committee picked another team (over those teams you referenced) for a regional or national seed based upon their wins/losses and that's what I was referencing. Wasn't disputing your post.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:00 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:You don’t understand the formula? Need me to explain it to you? And according to the NCAA, we are 19 now going 1-5 since then. You think it’s ONLY those 5 losses that dropped us 13 spots?
Then explain to me why we were at #6 in RPI before the Mizzou series, despite those midweek loses?
Define “many”. Look at who they lost to and when midweek. Not even midweek opponents are the same. LSU is hurt badly there. No good local teams like Florida and other eastern, Texas, and western teams have.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:01 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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You do this every few years.
Link me that bullshite.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:53 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
True or False?
LSU’s RPI would be higher if they were 27-12 instead of 24-15
LSU’s RPI would be higher if they were 27-12 instead of 24-15
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:53 pm to Lgrnwd
Winning which games?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:57 pm to ell_13
If they were 3-1 against NW state, Southern, Mcneese, and ULL. Instead of 0-4.
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