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Midweek games don’t matter: explain
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:47 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:47 am
Explain this?
Your perspective..
If anyone’s arguing this.. idk if that’s still a big narrative I haven’t followed this season much at all but they’re usually, mostly, inferior opponents that can be beat with fundamental play and execution. I know we don’t pitch our best in these games but there are certainly plenty of them-opportunities to rack up wins during the season. All of that adds up at seasons end when it’s time to setup tournaments. Most of our midweek games are in state opponents. Why would anyone claim that? I can’t understand. Additionally it seems like the flagship would benefit greatly from beating everyone in Louisiana as we naturally should so there would be a lot of emphasis on beating the southern’s and NSU’s of the world. Not a huge concern of mine but thought it’d be a chance to share ideas-just so I can see what others say.
Your perspective..
If anyone’s arguing this.. idk if that’s still a big narrative I haven’t followed this season much at all but they’re usually, mostly, inferior opponents that can be beat with fundamental play and execution. I know we don’t pitch our best in these games but there are certainly plenty of them-opportunities to rack up wins during the season. All of that adds up at seasons end when it’s time to setup tournaments. Most of our midweek games are in state opponents. Why would anyone claim that? I can’t understand. Additionally it seems like the flagship would benefit greatly from beating everyone in Louisiana as we naturally should so there would be a lot of emphasis on beating the southern’s and NSU’s of the world. Not a huge concern of mine but thought it’d be a chance to share ideas-just so I can see what others say.
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:52 am to The Cool No 9
Midweek games do matter. All games matter but they don’t matter as much as weekend games. As long as you take care of business in SEC play then you will be fine. The 2017 team lost 6 midweek games and they got a National seed went to Omaha and played for the NC.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:52 am to The Cool No 9
They matter, but very little compared to conference play. Most every great team loses midweek games for a myriad of reasons. One is parity. Two is usually the better teams are throwing their 7th, 8th and 9th best pitchers. And while their inferior opponent is usually throwing their 4th or 5th best option, t leads to more variability. The third reason is its naturally hard for the players to get up to play mcneese st after a weekend against a top 10 conference team.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:55 am to josh336
I got you. So I guess it’s the same for ole miss and bama when they have to go against southern miss, Samford, USA, etc..
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:59 am to The Cool No 9
Of Florida when they lose to Florida gulf coast and north Florida and all the other Florida directional schools every year.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:00 am to The Cool No 9
Yep. And has been pointed out by other posters, it hasnt been a pre-requisite for winning a natty, plenty of national champions have lost many midweek games.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:03 am to josh336
It’s like the equivalent of nba stars “resting” or “injured” in April because they’re gearing up for the playoffs
It’s just kinda lame losing to southern.
It’s just kinda lame losing to southern.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 9:05 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:04 am to The Cool No 9
IMO you should expect to give up runs in midweek games because you're using mostly non-weekend pitchers, but you should also be scoring a bunch of runs because your regular starting 9 are facing a subpar team's midweek pitchers. And the fact is our regulars have been getting consistently dominated by these pitchers. That's the concern for me.
It's not the losing as much as the terrible baseball we've been playing in those games. And of course people wouldn't care as much if we weren't then being dominated by Missouri or blasted by Florida.
It's not the losing as much as the terrible baseball we've been playing in those games. And of course people wouldn't care as much if we weren't then being dominated by Missouri or blasted by Florida.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:36 am to The Cool No 9
They don’t matter IF you handle your business in nearly dominant fashion on the weekends. LSU has typically done exactly that so it hasn’t been an issue often, however, think about the few times LSU has not been at the very top of the SEC standings. What has the committee done? LSU has no friends on the tournament committee so you better leave no doubt. If they have a chance to send a message to this team they will
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:15 am to The Cool No 9
They all matter and according to Skip Bertman, the midweek games matter alot more than when he coached because of the rankings and how they are computed. He said all of that during an interview for the Wally Pontiff classic game. So people can minimalize the midweek losses but they affect how you are looked at for national seeds and hosting regionals or even making the playoffs. I do agree they don't hold as much weight as conference games but you can't totally discount them.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:21 am to The Cool No 9
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:22 am to The Cool No 9
They only, "dont matter" when we lose.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:25 am to Hold That Tiger 10
How’s the worst road record in the league, mid week or overall compute, genius?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:18 am to The Cool No 9
But not Nicholls or northwestern . Lmfao okay
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:31 am to The Cool No 9
Skip said on broadcast the other night that they matter more now than in his day, especially losing to a team like Southern
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:02 pm to The Cool No 9
Getting in to and even better 'hosting a regional' matters. Mid-Week games do impact post season, so whoever says that, makes no sense.
Of course, after getting in, finishing hot is most important.
Of course, after getting in, finishing hot is most important.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:07 pm to lsutigermall
Mid week games only matter to some when the Tigers win. Other wise it’s ok.
CPM needs to go.
CPM needs to go.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:29 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
LINK Here is some facts for you. Not that it will prevent some of the stupidity from being spewed.
Skip Bertman disagrees with you.
Think about that.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:33 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:
Here is some facts for you. Not that it will prevent some of the stupidity from being spewed.
I don't think anyone believes midweek games are of utmost importance or on the same level as weekend and/or conference games. In a lot of these examples, the teams are playing .700 baseball vs. their midweek opponents while also winning 19+ SEC games. Those who didn't (2017 Florida and 2017 LSU) both went 21-9 in conference play.
So yes, SEC games matter most. Don't think anyone would dispute that. To wit, a great SEC record will trump a mediocre midweek record. But if you're not putting up 18+ conference wins, it would behoove you to win the midweek games to give your team any boost it can get.
And while I won't speak for others, I care more about how the team plays midweek games. They're an opportunity to get live reps without a ton of pressure. If we just sleepwalk through them because "it's hard to get up for them after playing a top 10 team last weekend", that's a weak mentality IMO.
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