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re: Mel Tucker anyone? Might LSU go back to where we had previous success?

Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:24 pm to
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You are a ignorant brainwashed person. What in the hell does this matter one bit? I want the most qualified period end of discussion.

Outside of that first racist criteria, further explain how this guy is anywhere near qualified for the LSU job?




Well for starters, if someone is objective, he is way more qualified than hires that LSU has made in the past, Curley Hallman, Coach O, for starters.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5462 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:43 pm to
Mel Tucker was a grotesque abomination as the Bears' DC. He fielded the worst defenses in franchise history. His defenses were perpetually confused, a factory for blown coverages and surreal sights of opposing WRs dancing into the end zone without a defender in view. Last in the league in points and yards allowed. 50 points surrendered multiple times in a single season - in the NFL! They were bad in an unprecedented way. Hiring him would be a cataclysm.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170454 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:50 pm to
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Outside of that first racist criteria, further explain how this guy is anywhere near qualified for the LSU job?

They're a top ten team...but let's see how things play out once the meat of the big ten east plays out before we crown anyone.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:54 pm to
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Mel Tucker was a grotesque abomination as the Bears' DC. He fielded the worst defenses in franchise history. His defenses were perpetually confused, a factory for blown coverages and surreal sights of opposing WRs dancing into the end zone without a defender in view. Last in the league in points and yards allowed. 50 points surrendered multiple times in a single season - in the NFL! They were bad in an unprecedented way. Hiring him would be a cataclysm.


I had actually forgotten about this. Thanks for the reminder. It was not mentioned in the Wicki article.... I wonder why?...
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2783 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:54 pm to
Don’t think so…
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Mel Tucker was a grotesque abomination as the Bears' DC. He fielded the worst defenses in franchise history. His defenses were perpetually confused, a factory for blown coverages and surreal sights of opposing WRs dancing into the end zone without a defender in view. Last in the league in points and yards allowed. 50 points surrendered multiple times in a single season - in the NFL! They were bad in an unprecedented way. Hiring him would be a cataclysm.


Bull shi.... He was a DC at Jacksonville and they were 4th best defense in 2011. They had a horrible offense and Del Rio got fired and he was the interim HC. He also was the Cleveland Browns DC and had a top 5 Defense there.

He as the DC for the Bears in 2013 and 2014, they were 8-8 in 2013, bad year in 2014. He was more than 1 year on his resume.

Your cherry picking stats. He was DC for three different NFL teams. Did well at Cleveland and Jacksonville, not good at Chicago.


This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41189 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:02 pm to
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least he is not a cat lover........

Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10073 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:03 pm to
0/10
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:03 pm to
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JKChesterton


Well, he certainly has more than just his time in Chicago to judge him on. His most recent stint seems to be going quite nicely and may set him up for a more high profile gig if he wants one.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41189 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:04 pm to
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You may want to call the LSU Diversity and Inclusion Officer and ask them.


So your defense against someone calling you brainwashed is to refer them to the brainwashed of all brainwashed entities?
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6407 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:06 pm to
Mel understands what is needed to build a program. If he stays at MSU, I will bump this post in 2025 when he is top 5 and on his way to his second Big 10 title. Excellent recruiter and understands how to recruit a roster (which is why MSU is finally playing well). He knows enough defense to coordinate at the highest level. The rest of this season will shed further light on his game day coaching decisions. I think he is Tier 3 only bc of his lack of head coaching experience, but think he will put MSU in a position to pass OSU and Big Blue in the next three years.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5462 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Bull shi....


No, it's not bullshite at all. Literally everything I wrote was perfectly accurate. He was a disorganized disaster as DC with the Bears. A colossal, historic, addled failure. His own Wiki acknowledges it:

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January 18, 2013 Tucker was named defensive coordinator of the Chicago Bears.[10] Following one of the worst defensive seasons in Bears' history in 2013, Tucker was criticized by the media.[11] As a result, the team fired two of Tucker's assistant coaches, linebackers coach Tim Tibesar and defensive line coach Mike Phair.[12] The Bears replaced them with Paul Pasqualoni as defensive line coach and Reggie Herring as linebackers coach.[13]

On January 20, 2015, following another record-setting low defensive season for the Bears in 2014, Tucker was replaced by former San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio under new head coach John Fox.[14]


He would be a boneheaded hire. MSU is going to get pummeled by the better Big Ten teams.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:21 pm to
No, you only cited the Bears stats. He has coached as a DC besides that. 2 times in the NFL (Cleveland and the Jags) and also at Ohio State and UGA in college. Like I said, he is 6-0, if he wins the 3 games he is favored in and beats 1 of Ohio State, Michigan or Penn State, he gets to 10-2, 2 of those he is 11-1 and likely Coach of the year in the B1G.
Posted by HL
Member since May 2020
200 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:37 pm to
You state all men are equal under the constitution yet black men who commit the same crime as a white person are incarcerated at a higher rate and sentence for a longer period of time. There many statistical data including health disparities and treatment as it relates to race that you can look up.
Posted by LSUTiger2000
Member since Jul 2021
148 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Ethnicity: Check


Tell me, how I know you haven't spent much time outside of your bubble..

Do you know that being Black or White has nothing to do with ethnicity.
Posted by Sebourne Klein
Member since Aug 2021
576 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:47 pm to
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I wholeheartedly agree but am fully aware of the realities of the world we live in......


So you also support short, fat white guys playing center on 65% of all NBA teams?
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:00 pm to
Ok Jordy. Whatever.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:38 pm to
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I think he is Tier 3 only bc of his lack of head coaching experience,


The rest of this season will greatly impact how he is viewed in relation to HC experience. He may or may not pan out. We will have to wait and see.
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2361 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:39 pm to
Head coaching record
Overall 13–12 (college)
2–3 (NFL)
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:53 pm to
He may check a lot of your idiotic boxes, but nevertheless, he isn't LSU material.
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