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re: Mediocre arms
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:12 am to In The Know
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:12 am to In The Know
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This staff is very, very average.
were you saying this before this weekend?
no staff is average if it has the best pitcher in college on the staff. we also have a returning weekend starter from last year. oh, and we also have the best closer in college baseball. average my arse.
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Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:15 am to lsumma09
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Please tell me where in August of 2009 he could have found two better contributors to the 2010 team?
Isn't that my point? Shouldn't PM have thought of that before August and he was left holding the bag? And having Bourgois as our #2 starter compounds my point- Bourgois is a middle reliever at best right now, and being our #2 just shows you how average the staff really is.
And Watkins is doing well right now, but its a looong season. See Tyler Hannover last year.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:17 am to In The Know
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no staff is average if it has the best pitcher in college on the staff. we also have a returning weekend starter from last year. oh, and we also have the best closer in college baseball. average my arse.
I hope AR and MO can pitch every game!
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:17 am to In The Know
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I love PM but he dropped the ball here. This staff is very, very average.
That might be the dumbest statement I have seen on the Rant since Football Season.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:19 am to In The Know
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See Tyler Hannover last year.
.321 for the season. Bad example.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:20 am to In The Know
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And having Bourgois as our #2 starter compounds my point
Again were you saying that befor Friday night??
Jezzz the kid has had 1 bad inning.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:28 am to In The Know
dude, Austin Ross is legitimate SEC weekend starter.
Skip Bertman didn't have a whole bunch of teams that had dominating pitchers on Friday, Saturday, AND Sunday. Actually, Sundays were usually an adventure.
Skip Bertman didn't have a whole bunch of teams that had dominating pitchers on Friday, Saturday, AND Sunday. Actually, Sundays were usually an adventure.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:33 am to In The Know
Know, just stop watching and leave the fan stuff to the rest of us. Not sure what you expect. We win the series if Antknee is pitching and that's that. Stop crying.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:33 am to In The Know
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rediculous
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:34 am to Springlake Tiger
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dude, Austin Ross is legitimate SEC weekend starter.
Skip Bertman didn't have a whole bunch of teams that had dominating pitchers on Friday, Saturday, AND Sunday. Actually, Sundays were usually an adventure.
I agree. We have a good enough staff to where there should be no excuse to get swept by anybody. I think a bigger concern is who is going to contribute hitting this year besides Dean and a couple of others. They have got to get the bats going and do a better job of having quality at-bats. Timely hitting is what we need and I saw a lot of timid at-bats, some with runners in scoring position this weekend.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:38 am to In The Know
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Isn't that my point? Shouldn't PM have thought of that before August and he was left holding the bag? And having Bourgois as our #2 starter compounds my point- Bourgois is a middle reliever at best right now, and being our #2 just shows you how average the staff really is.
Mainieri DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE AUGUST!!! You act like ZVR was setting LSU up the entire summer, but he wasn't.
Mainieri went out and got two full time starters in the middle of August. Your point is invalid, and you spelled Ranaudo's name wrong.
Edit: you also spelled Bourgeios name wrong too...
This post was edited on 3/15/10 at 10:39 am
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:39 am to TIGER62
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vonrosenbery
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:41 am to Choupique19
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I believe the Pirates made him an offer he couldn't refuse. His draft slot did not warrant that type of money, but anybody given that bonus has to take it. ZVR had to take that offer.
+1
He damn near got the same money that JM got as a first rounder.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:43 am to In The Know
who would you have not recruited?
cotton- 1st team 5a, 3 wins in byrds 3 state title games
lasuzzo 1st team all state
rittner all state for 3 years
garrett- top 100 HS by baseball america
bourgeois- all state and dominated at lsue
reed- top 50 in texas
cotton- 1st team 5a, 3 wins in byrds 3 state title games
lasuzzo 1st team all state
rittner all state for 3 years
garrett- top 100 HS by baseball america
bourgeois- all state and dominated at lsue
reed- top 50 in texas
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:53 am to LSUMJ
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bourgeois- all state and dominated at lsue
I agree with the premise of your post but let's not say Bourgeois 'dominated' at LSUE. His ERA at LSUE was above 5 after all.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 10:59 am to In The Know
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The entire staff, save for Renaudo and Ott. I love PM, but he put his eggs in the ZVR basket and had no real backup plan. Nor have we seen any real improvement from Bradshaw, Bertuccini, or Ross. PM is great, but the lack of great pitching is rediculous for a program like ours.
We don't lack quality arms, Bourgois and Matulis are both very projectible, problem is that both are sophomores and still trying to figure it out. Plenty of 19/20 year olds in the minors with great arms are still in the Gulf Coast/Arizon Leagues.
I agree that we aren't very deep at pitcher, the draft hasn't helped, but I think they have recruited the hell out of the position players. I don't think its a recruiting issue.
The von Rosenberg and Colvin thing I can't blame on Maineri.. No one expected them to pull late 1st round, and mid 2nd round money (respectivley) when they were juniors... especially Colvin, he just came on really strong as a senior. Hell Heathcott got over $2 million!!
This post was edited on 3/15/10 at 11:04 am
Posted on 3/15/10 at 11:19 am to Camp Randall
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Just blame it on Les and be done with it. I know you want to.
It is all Brady's fault.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 11:24 am to Weaver
I kinda think Ross pitched his tail off this weekend. The only pitcher I was disappointed in is Bradshaw. He faced two batters...1 sac bunted. The other, a .154 hitter, singled. Ouch.
Other than that, the staff was short-handed due to the injuries to Ranaudo and Matulis. Don't kid yourself even with only Matulis available...the results would have been much better.
Other than that, the staff was short-handed due to the injuries to Ranaudo and Matulis. Don't kid yourself even with only Matulis available...the results would have been much better.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 11:26 am to In The Know
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The entire staff, save for Renaudo and Ott. I love PM, but he put his eggs in the ZVR basket and had no real backup plan. Nor have we seen any real improvement from Bradshaw, Bertuccini, or Ross. PM is great, but the lack of great pitching is rediculous for a program like ours.
How about you don't post anything else about this baseball team for the rest of the season? You obviously don't know WTF you are talking about, as others in this thread have pointed out.
We have as much or more pitching depth than anyone in college baseball.
No real improvement from Bradshaw, Bertuccini, or Ross? Are you serious? Ross pitched a hell of a game on Saturday. Bradshaw and Bertuccini have come through for us countless times.
No real backup plan for Von Rosenburg? Um yeah, their names are Joey Bourgeois and Mitch Mormann. They will be very good pitchers by May. They are still adjusting to quality competition.
Coach Mainieri has proven that he knows exactly what he is doing....everything is geared towards peaking in May/June.
Posted on 3/15/10 at 11:26 am to In The Know
seriously college baseball is an offensive game for a reason all the best high school arms get drafted each year and pro clubs overpay often because of the lack of pitching basically everywhere. then u also have many of the top arms that dont get the money they want go juco so they have the oppurtunity to enter the draft the following year. all that said you can almost always bitch about pitching on every college baseball team
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