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re: Matt McMahon Offense

Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1423 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:53 pm to
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You are so so triggered guy


Not at all just poking fun at your lack of basketball knowledge. Explains your handle. If you could have WW squatting, you'd be on the bottom right?

#TriggerHappy
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
7726 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Guarantee you there will still be people that say they are playing “street ball” anytime the offense struggles for any stretch.

There are people that say it after watching LSU run an obvious set play.


Exactly. Also basketball is a very free flowing sport. You can run plays and sets but a lot of it happens organically. It’s not like football where everything is predicted on something or everyone has to be at a certain spot at a certain time.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33970 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:57 pm to
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Go back and watch the Michigan, Michigan State games again.



Do you mean the games where both teams scored at least 80 points? LSU put up the 2nd highest point total Michigan allowed all of last season....and lost. Was it because LSU had no "offensive system"? Or was it maybe because despite scoring against a very good defensive team, LSU's lack of defense allow Michigan to shoot 54% (40% from 3) and make 10 three pointers. LSU allowed both Michigan and Michigan St to have their highest scoring outputs of the tournaments.

This year the offense was bad and LSU's downfall. But in the years prior LSU could (and did) score with anyone. 3 straight seasons in the top 15 in points per game (Top 6 in 2020 and 2021). It was LSU's horrible defense that let them down.

Perhaps the offense between 2019-2021 wasn't "aesthetically pleasing" to you. But the FACT is there were only a handful of teams who scored more and more efficiently than those LSU teams.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
657 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:57 pm to
It was never street ball. Will Wade coaches and NBA style of offense. Most colleges have offenses designed to get guys open shots. Wade's system is designed to get his best scorers a mismatch in whatever areas of the court the feel comfortable in. That's why when we had guys with NBA skill sets or offense flourished. This year we had 0 players with an NBA skill set because Adam Miller got hurt. Eason was our leading scorer and he's going to be a 3 and D player in the NBA. He's hardly going to be asked to create his own shot. Naz Reid, Trendon Watford, Skylar Mays, and Cam Thomas have all shown they have the ability to create a bucket against NBA competition. There wasn't a single player on this year's team that you could envision scoring 20+ off the bench as a rookie. His system may not have been the best for a college team. Especially one that isn't perennially in the running for the top high school scorers every year. But, it's far from "street ball"
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21744 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:59 pm to
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This happens when people try to comment on something when they have no clue what the hell they are watching.


Jwill and qb just in this thread qualify.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24505 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Not at all just poking fun at your lack of basketball knowledge.


Says the guy that says Wade was a horrible offensive coach. Oooooof
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4530 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:13 pm to
We had very little,continuity on offense. Some movement. Not many hard cuts.

Double high post.

Problem for LSU is all of the SEC teams knew we could not hurt them from Three.

They packed it in. And made it difficult to finish at the basket

Our guards were very poor decision makers. We took much harder shots than most of our opponents
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4530 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:15 pm to
Have to credit wade or whoever handled the defense. The defensive effort was far better in 2021/22.
Posted by Rolo182
Member since Nov 2021
203 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:15 pm to
Maybe Rutiger shouldn’t bring up the word education, given the poor grammar and syntax of his/her post!
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4530 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:17 pm to
Even this New guy will want to put athletes and scorers in space.

Defense wise… could very well speed up the game. And run off of missed shots and turnovers.

Although our current team never demonstrated that they could fill lanes and make a 3 on 2 break get an easy basket.

We took it one on 1 or. 2 or 3 and tried to make a play.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1423 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Jwill and qb just in this thread qualify.


Not sure how you figure. I can teach you a lot about the game. I don’t speak much about Football, but basketball I’ve lived and breathed since I was a kid, and I’ve help develop several division 1 and future NBA level players, so.

Don’t take my word for it, watch how the program is built now. You’ll be forgetting all about WW here in the next 8 months assuming we aren’t slammed with probation.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24505 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:37 pm to
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I’ve help develop several division 1 and future NBA level players, so.


Sureeeeeeeeeeeeee you have

Were you the water boy on AAU teams for some of these so called "future NBA level players"
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69450 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:43 pm to
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It's like some of you have never watched a Will Wade offense.


Ball movement and motion isn't how most would describe a WW offense.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:45 pm to
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Maybe Rutiger shouldn’t bring up the word education, given the poor grammar and syntax of his/her post!


Lol. Left out one apostrophe and this is your comment.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
20051 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:46 pm to
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You do know that until this season Wade killed it at LSU offensively, right?

LOL
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127759 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:49 pm to
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Ball movement and motion isn't how most would describe a WW offense.



I certainly would not. Maybe they and I were watching two different teams, I did not watch anywhere near as much LSU basketball as some on here, but I don't remember a tremendous amount of motion or ball movement through the years.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10067 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 3:59 pm to
Thank god, people moving.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1423 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Were you the water boy on AAU teams for some of these so called "future NBA level players"


There are 2 NBA Level talents.

Junior Loftin- Louisiana Tech
Terrance Arceneaux- UH Commit

Yeah man I provided the water and snacks after the game!
Posted by Regit424
Member since Jan 2021
642 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 4:41 pm to
Good look at what we are getting. Thanks for posting.
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