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re: Matt Canada: “I learned a tremendous amount from Coach O”
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:14 pm to Htowntiger90
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:14 pm to Htowntiger90
Canada called a great game against Bama that year. It was a game winning plan that LSU simply didn’t have the QB talent to execute. Put Burrow in that game plan that year and the streak is over.
Canada’s plan that year was light years ahead of what was rolled out last year. Hoping this season the QBs skill set can be maximized against Alabama
Canada’s plan that year was light years ahead of what was rolled out last year. Hoping this season the QBs skill set can be maximized against Alabama
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:15 pm to RidiculousHype
I think Canada has probably done some honest self-reflection and has probably matured a little bit, which is reflected in his comments. I doubt him and O are going to ever be drinking buddies, but he probably does actually respect that O never publicly threw him under the bus, despite their obvious differences in personalities/philosophies, so he’s probably reciprocating that.
One, I think—fair or not—he realizes he’s gotten a reputation as maybe being difficult to work with, and he’s looking to change that perception. Two, I think he’s likely pretty genuinely matured and mellowed a bit after having been thrown into that shite-show at Maryland and seen it from the perspective of the head coach. Probably has a a better appreciation for all the head coaches he worked for.
I hated his offense (for LSU), but thought his assholishness was probably a bit exaggerated, and I wish him future success.
One, I think—fair or not—he realizes he’s gotten a reputation as maybe being difficult to work with, and he’s looking to change that perception. Two, I think he’s likely pretty genuinely matured and mellowed a bit after having been thrown into that shite-show at Maryland and seen it from the perspective of the head coach. Probably has a a better appreciation for all the head coaches he worked for.
I hated his offense (for LSU), but thought his assholishness was probably a bit exaggerated, and I wish him future success.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:16 pm to The Pirate King
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lol give me a break. He got one TD on a trick play
Which is more than SE has gotten in two games.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:23 pm to Hot Carl
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Hot Carl
Well said.
And I totally agree about learning a ton from the Maryland situation. He was always forthcoming about wanting to be a HC one day, but those were awful circumstances to finally become one.
I'm sure he used anything he could from every coach he ever worked for to keep that team together.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:27 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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Which is more than SE has gotten in two games.
Our standard is “well he was better than Steve”?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:37 pm to nvasil1
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Well said.
And I totally agree about learning a ton from the Maryland situation. He was always forthcoming about wanting to be a HC one day, but those were awful circumstances to finally become one.
I'm sure he used anything he could from every coach he ever worked for to keep that team together.
Thanks. I was actually really impressed with the job he did overall last season. I couldn’t believe they beat Texas to start the season, and he seemed to somehow keep them afloat despite all the adversity. Player dies, school gets sued, head coach gets fire, etc... all in such a short amount of time—honestly if they had gone 0-12, it wouldn’t have surprised me, and I wouldn’t have blamed Canada at all.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:41 pm to Jack Crevalle
How do we know it was a bad hire after just one season? I’m not saying he would have been great but one year of a brand new system isn’t much of a sample size.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:43 pm to The Pirate King
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Our standard is “well he was better than Steve”?
No it’s not. God you’re dumb
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:44 pm to The Pirate King
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Our standard is “well he was better than Steve”?
I don't think that should be the standard, But Steve is o's hand picked OC. So I suppose past OC's and their offenses should be compared to Steve's.
ETA: And since Canada's offense scored (Doesn't matter how) on Bama, and Steve's have laid two goose eggs, it's a fair comparison.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:45 pm to SoFresh
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think that literally means that he's coached 25 seasons of college ball because coaching staffs change every year. Not necessarily at 25 different programs lol
K I sure hope so
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:47 pm to Tigers eyes
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Exactly!!! For some reason this fact goes unnoticed by some fans. That's why I thought Canada should have been kept by LSU. Yu don't have to be creative to score and win against most teams LSU plays, but to beat the elite you do. And that is something Canada was good at. I just hope we have the same thing in Brady!!!
We were much closer to actually beating Bama in ‘12 and ‘14. You think we should have kept Stud and/or Cam as OC? I thought we were above moral victories? Regardless, all roads lead to here, and I think any intellectually honest fan will concede we are likely in much better position now to compete for championships with Burrow/Ensminger/Brady than we would have been with Brennan/Canada. Maybe not. We’ll find out in the next couple weeks, though.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:55 pm to ipodking
No matter how you feel about Canada.
O hired him. And people continue to excuse his mistakes.
O hired him. And people continue to excuse his mistakes.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:56 pm to The Pirate King
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At least Canada scores on bama. Hell if etling was half decent his offense would’ve put up 24 points that night.
lol give me a break. He got one TD on a trick play.
That wasn't a trick play, that was Canada's offense. It was a fake jet sweep QB draw basically (where the QB just happened to be our backup RB). And it turned into the longest run LSU has had against Bama in its entire documented HISTORY. His offense did make Bama actually have to think. To put things in perspective, in 2016 we had 33 total rushing yards with Fournette and Guice in the backfield. LSU had 12 yards rushing last year.
Canada's offense had 151 rushing yards and outgained Bama in total yards.
Although Canada's offense was not great and his red zone offense was not very good, he actually did a good job with that team and effectively used guys like Gage and D Williams in the offense.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 1:14 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 6:56 pm to Brazos
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How do we know it was a bad hire after just one season?
So, your opinion is Miles should have kept Malveto another year instead of going out and getting Chavis? Or should have kept Steele instead of getting Aranda? Canada was the wrong hire for O, and he deserves whatever criticism came from that. But it was a sunk cost at that point, no sense in keeping hammering a square peg in a round hole when you know it won’t fit.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:00 pm to The Pirate King
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lol give me a break. He got one TD on a trick play.
That’s one more than.........
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:07 pm to The Pirate King
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Our standard is “well he was better than Steve”?
Seeing as Steve is still here, yeah.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:08 pm to Hot Carl
Canada was no where as bad as Malevto and all we know is Steele left LSU to go to Auburn. People assumed Miles asked him to leave but I’m happy he did because we got Aranda out of it. Steele is also doing a damn good job at Auburn.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:13 pm to Hot Carl
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So, your opinion is Miles should have kept Malveto another year instead of going out and getting Chavis? Or should have kept Steele instead of getting Aranda?
I doubt anybody thinks that Miles should have kept Malveto or Steele as defensive coordinators as opposed to bringing in Chavis or Aranda. But at least when Miles made those moves, he upgraded the coaching staffs.
O firing Canada (be it right or wrong) and then naming Ensminger as his replacement was not an upgrade. At least not in my opinion.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:30 pm to earl keese
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O firing Canada (be it right or wrong) and then naming Ensminger as his replacement was not an upgrade. At least not in my opinion.
This
Posted on 8/27/19 at 7:40 pm to Brazos
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Canada was no where as bad as Malevto
That’s certainly the perception. Is it reality? According to Football Outsiders , LSU’s 2017 offensive S&P+ Ranking was 23rd. LSU’s 2008 defensive S&P+ ranking was 20th.
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all we know is Steele left LSU to go to Auburn.
It was widely thought that Miles did not invite him back, but you’re right, we don’t know.
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Steele is also doing a damn good job at Auburn.
He is, but you’re lying if you say you’re not at least a little surprised. Steele was not very well liked by the LSU fan base at all, and there were not many—if any—who were sad to see him go. Surely you won’t argue that. But really, who cares? All that shite’s in the past. The 2019 LSU Tigers suit up to play a real football game in 4 days, and I, for one, am fired the frick up.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 7:54 pm
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