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re: Many around the program – and outside of it – compare the scheme Ensminger is implementing
Posted on 3/27/18 at 6:34 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 3/27/18 at 6:34 am to boxcar willie
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boxcar willie
i like you as a poster even though we disagree but you talk yourself into corners.
if the lsu hc doesn't owe the fans anything what was the point of you constantly bashing Miles' offense?
he doesnt owe you an offense yet you bashed him for it even when he was winning.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 9:25 am
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:21 am to Rickdaddy4188
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the lsu hc doesn't owe the fans anything what was the point if you constantly bashing Miles' offense? he doesnt owe you an offense yet you bashed him for it even when he was winning.
yea, I guess you have a point there. I'm going to have to think about that one. Maybe you're right on that (or maybe not)
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:25 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
You really are one ignorant terd. Go stick your head in the sand.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:29 am to ctiger69
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Go stick your head in the sand.
I haven't tried this yet. Does it help?
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:46 pm to ctiger69
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You really are one ignorant terd.
Link?
Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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if the lsu hc doesn't owe the fans anything what was the point of you constantly bashing Miles' offense? he doesnt owe you an offense yet you bashed him for it even when he was winning.
Wtf are you talking about? The LSU coach doesn't owe the fans anything? The coach owes the fans an entertaining football team.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:42 pm to SofaKingTrill
So as long as it looks pretty, you're good with the coach?
Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:45 pm to SofaKingTrill
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Wtf are you talking about? The LSU coach doesn't owe the fans anything? The coach owes the fans an entertaining football team.
i know. i was applying someone's own logic against posts they made in the past.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 2:35 pm to Tiger Ree
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Personally, I think it sucks to take a team from being ranked #6 going into the sixth game of the season to unranked after the 8th game
If I was a Houston fan or a Tom Herman fan, I suppose I would think that sucks as well. But since I'm not a Houston/Herman fan, I don't give a frick about that.
But I do personally think it sucks to fire a coach in September, have more then half a season left to find the coach that you want, and then settle for your d-line coach to replace the man who had won 114 games in just over 11 years. I also think it sucks to have that d-line coach claim that he's going to hire only the very best coordinators, get out of their way and let them coach, and then less than a month into the season, get in their way and cause friction amongst some of the coaches that lasted throughout the season, according to some reports.
I also think it sucks to hire Canada as the OC, the only Broyles award finalist on the offensive side of the ball during the 2016 season (something you bragged about for months on end) and then run the guy off after only one year without giving him and his system a chance to show what they could do. yet we hear it time after time from some of you folks about "give o a chance", that's comical Ree.
I also thinks it sucks to go the entire month of September last year looking like shite, and enduring two historic losses. It also sucks to go only go 9-4 during a season where the SEC was as bad as it's been for years.
But that's just me, smart guy.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 3:02 pm to earl keese
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Personally, I think it sucks to take a team from being ranked #6 going into the sixth game of the season to unranked after the 8th game If I was a Houston fan or a Tom Herman fan, I suppose I would think that sucks as well.
What is going from 12 heading into week 2 to unranked after week 5?
The problem with this is it lacks context. Typical cherry picking for Ree however. First of all UH is in the AAC, not a power 5 league, so they typically would not be ranked and unlike P5 team they will drop much further after a loss. UH started 15 then went to 6 after week 1 (does that suck?) which was probably too high. After losing 1 they fell from 6 to 13, then to 11 after a win, after a 2nd loss they dropped out, which would most likely not happen (going from 11 to UR) to a P5 team no matter who they lost 2 8 weeks in.
Overall he was 22-4 in 2 years and had their first top 10 finish in 25 years, in fact only their 2nd ranked finish in 25 years, does that suck? But yes, let’s focus on a drop in the mid season polls to evaluate a coach, anything to distract from O
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 4:28 pm to Tiger Ree
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Personally, I think it sucks to take a team from being ranked #6 going into the sixth game of the season to unranked after the 8th game is quite an accomplishment.
how would you feel if a coach took a team that was ranked 6th in talent by people that get paid to evaluate talent and then have a historic loss to a perennial sec doormat and then that coach gets manhandled at homecoming by a team with zero players with a nfl draft grade?
the talent gap between troy and lsu is infinitely bigger than any loss herman has had in his career.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 4:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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how would you feel if a coach took a team that was ranked 6th in talent by people that get paid to evaluate talent and then have a historic loss to a perennial sec doormat and then that coach gets manhandled at homecoming by a team with zero players with a nfl draft grade?
Get ready for the goal posts to be moved across the Atlantic.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 4:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Overall he was 22-4 in 2 years and had their first 10 ten finish in 25 years.
Herman had two great years at Houston yet you can't tell Ree anything like that. He stated in another post that Herman had a "pretty good" first year but Ree wouldn't want Herman's second year at Houston. Hell, the guy went 9-3 his second year and the Houston team went 9-4. the exact same record that o had here at LSU and ree has gone on and on about what a great season o had.
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let's focus on a drop in the mid season polls to evaluate a coach, anything to distract from O.
Exactly. Trying to make a point with a guy like Ree is like trying to teach a dog how to bake a cake. Impossible.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 4:35 pm to earl keese
I forgot how
Much are used to shite on Sherman for losing to less talented teams
Sorta like LSU losing to IDK a sun belt team.
Much are used to shite on Sherman for losing to less talented teams
Sorta like LSU losing to IDK a sun belt team.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:16 pm to ctiger69
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You really are one ignorant terd. Go stick your head in the sand.
says the guy that doesn't have a single post about the actual playing of football. youre entire post history in the rant is shitting on Miles.
im sorry facts about miles' tenure, shits all over your proven football ignorant opinions.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:54 am to Rickdaddy4188
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if the lsu hc doesn't owe the fans anything what was the point of you constantly bashing Miles' offense? he doesnt owe you an offense yet you bashed him for it even when he was winning.
because Miles had many years to modernize his offense and bring it into the 21st century. Long after it had become apparent to everyone in sports how archaic the offense was, and how much it was holding back the chances for LSU to beat the better teams who had equal or better talent, he stubbornly stuck to it and either through loyalty, or blindness, he retained Cameron and continued on with that plodding offense.
The difference is that with Orgeron, you and the other anti O's, have not given him a legitimate shot yet to see what he can do with team. One season, which wasn't as bad a season as ya'll make it out to be, is not enough for a new coach of a team to be given by the fan base. It's just way to soon for all the negativity ya'll bring to the program.
Look at the Minnesota Gophers and PJ Fleck, a coach many on here wanted, including me. He went 5-7 his first season at Minnesota when the team had gone 9-4 the previous year. You think the fans are calling for his head? no they are not. Sure, Minnesota is not LSU, still that is a big move in the wrong direction for that program. It is just unreasonable to not give a new head coach of a team one full season and then call for his head. Minnesota fans are smart enough to know that, LSU fans are not.
In summary, me and others who questioned Miles offense is not the same as you and the other anti O's calling for Orgerons head.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 4:00 am
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:50 am to boxcar willie
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Look at the Minnesota Gophers and PJ Fleck, a coach many on here wanted, including me. He went 5-7 his first season at Minnesota when the team had gone 9-4 the previous year. You think the fans are calling for his head?
Not a good comparison at all. Minnesota didn't have a decade of top 10 recruiting classes and a winning culture like LSU had when Orgeron took over.
A place like Minnesota is the kind of job Orgeron is qualified to go try and build IMO. If he does turn it around like Fleck did, then he should get a better job like at LSU.
For me, the record isn't really the real reason I have my doubts. It's some of the other things like decision making, the hiring process and the saying one thing then doing another. I don't want to hash out all of the examples again. That's been said a million times and I just don't think it's productive to beat that dead horse anymore.
He's gonna get his shot this year with everything in place just the way he wants it. If he's successful, people like me will change their views, but for now, I'm just not convinced and honestly, I think that's a very fair assessment of his tenure so far.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 6:06 am
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:25 am to boxcar willie
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In summary, me and others who questioned Miles offense is not the same as you and the other anti O's calling for Orgerons head.
O never deserved a chance. And why do you use an apostrophe for “Os”, but not for “Miles’s offense”?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:29 am to Mo Jeaux
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O never deserved a chance. And why do you use an apostrophe for “Os”, but not for “Miles’s offense”?
because I don't have good grammar and Miles ends in a 's'.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:35 am to boxcar willie
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Miles ends in a 's'.
So?
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because I don't have good grammar
True.
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