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re: Mainieri says Drost practicing in CF

Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:04 pm to
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You don’t put a kid in CF because he’s a rookie and so he won’t get the Sun in his eyes.
Sure you do. OF reads can be tough as it is. You want to make it easier and give them fewer reasons to think so they can just react.
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You aren’t going to hide anyone there or shelter a player there. Not in the Box of in the SEC.
That can be said for any position but you can make things easier by taking away obstacles. The sun is a real obstacle. It makes that position more difficult. That’s all I’m saying. You take it into consideration. This isn’t little league where you just put your athletes at SS and CF simply because that’s where most balls are going and you have dunces you have to put somewhere. Laird was arguable our best defensive OF ever outside of his arm and that’s where he played. Pretty sure he finished his career without an error.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:14 pm to
God I would love for all three of out OF positions to have howitzers. Only thing I love more than a catcher picking someone off at second is an OF gunning someone.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:20 pm to
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God I would love for all three of out OF positions to have howitzers. Only thing I love more than a catcher picking someone off at second is an OF gunning someone.

It’s a luxury for a college team to have one elite arm in the OF. Three would be like winning the lottery.

And I agree, watching your OF gun a guy down at the plate or at third base is exciting.
Posted by des4271
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 4:01 am to
Yeah, they could give Drost a shot at first should Morgan happen to have a long, bad stretch. Might be a drop off in defense but a big gain in offense.
Posted by Brbengal
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 5:53 am to
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Very little thought goes into the position because you can go after everything, balls don’t curve as much and it’s easier to read off the bat. RF at Alex Box is the toughest because of the sun.


FWIW
Canevari made this very point while discussing the position change w/ Hanny yesterday.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:27 am to
I missed that. I rarely listen to radio anymore. I work from home. I just happened to catch PM on OTB yesterday because I went to get a haircut.
Posted by Good Times
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:53 am to
Morgan has been hitting the ball. Unfortunately, at the defenders. His hits are coming.
Posted by PenguinPubes
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 6:57 am to
Doughty did the same shite last year. Ripping the ball but wasn’t finding holes

Can’t fault a guy for making solid contact, balls will eventually find grass
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:23 am to
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Yeah, they could give Drost a shot at first should Morgan happen to have a long, bad stretch. Might be a drop off in defense but a big gain in offense.


If Morgan struggles there Beloso is going to first and the DH spot is open.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 7:31 am to
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You aren’t going to hide anyone there or shelter a player there. Not in the Box of in the SEC.


It’s CF it’s not rocket science. The read off the bat and the angles you take are easier in CF than the corner outfield spots plus in center the balls you get to the infielders and the wall don’t come into play nearly as often where as the corner spots the walls in fair and foul territory plus the infielders coming back is something you have to consider on almost every single ball hit to you.

That’s why I say CF is more of just a read ball get ball position and your natural athleticism is more important than your defensive tool. the reason you put your fastest, not necessarily the best, outfielder out there is because of the ground you have to cover.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:05 am to
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It’s CF it’s not rocket science. The read off the bat and the angles you take are easier in CF than the corner outfield spots plus in center the balls you get to the infielders and the wall don’t come into play nearly as often where as the corner spots the walls in fair and foul territory plus the infielders coming back is something you have to consider on almost every single ball hit to you.

CFer has to contend with the walls. Balls curve away from him both ways depending on a rightie or leftie batting. He has to contend with both second baseman & SS; and he frequently comes in on shallow hit balls and he’s got way more room behind him to cover. More area to play creates a bigger need to go back ion balls, read the angle of flight and he often has to cover for a slower OFer in left or right. Remember Beau Jordan?

At every level of baseball coaches covet a top CFer because it requires more skill to play there. They will even put a guy there with a lesser bat if that guy is elite on defense.

The notion that RF even though it’s a Sun field is tougher to play at LSU than CF is goes against what all the baseball people say about the game and empirical evidence. Watson, Mahtook and all the other top LSU CFers didn’t start in CF as freshmen and then move to RF because it was a tougher position to play. They stayed in CF because that’s the tougher OF position requiring your best OFers.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 8:16 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:12 am to
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The read off the bat and the angles you take are easier in CF


Who comes up with this stuff

The read off the bat is easier in CF? Wut?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:16 am to
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Who comes up with this stuff

The read off the bat is easier in CF? Wut?

These guys obviously never played CF.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:25 am to
Watson, Mahtook, etc were your best athletes in the outfield so they played CF. I’m not arguing that you don’t want your most athletic guy in CF. I am stating that the actual responsibilities of the position are not that difficult. None of the outfield spots have difficult responsibilities but in my opinion playing CF is the one that you have to think the least on a ball hit in your area.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:32 am to
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Watson, Mahtook, etc were your best athletes in the outfield so they played CF. I’m not arguing that you don’t want your most athletic guy in CF. I am stating that the actual responsibilities of the position are not that difficult. None of the outfield spots have difficult responsibilities but in my opinion playing CF is the one that you have to think the least on a ball hit in your area.


You admit you need to be a better athlete in CF than in the other OF positions. But somehow a RFer at LSU has to think more than a CFer does? Frankly you aren’t making much sense, OF is largely instinct and athletic talent. The biggest thinking part is to know the situations and bring your dun glasses if necessary. Knowing the various situations is a given for any position. But having the instincts and ability to run down a drive in deep center is a special talent. Some have it and some fo not.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:41 am to
The whole point of why I started this was because of the OP asked why put a guy there that hasn’t necessarily practiced the position. I just don’t think that it matters as the position is more using your natural instincts and athleticism over being knowledgeable about how to properly play it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:47 am to
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These guys obviously never played CF.
2 years in college. Before that I was in LF. Played a little catcher and 3B my first year. Also a closer.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:49 am to
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ell_13



You played college baseball?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87177 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:50 am to
And I’m 28
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 8:51 am to
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These guys obviously never played CF.


I’m thinking we should just hide Beloso in CF & let Drost DH
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