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re: LSU's Talent Advantage Evaporates Beginning This Saturday
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:50 pm to The312
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:50 pm to The312
Thru 5 games ypp is actually less than 2010 even though 20% of schedule is comprised of FCS and somewhat lesser defenses.
Scoring O is up though with more PA in the scheme. Good to be rid of Crowton (Maryland is down from 2010 avg of 32.2 to 24.5ppg).
Scoring O is up though with more PA in the scheme. Good to be rid of Crowton (Maryland is down from 2010 avg of 32.2 to 24.5ppg).
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:52 pm to The312
All that BS doesn't mean squat...look at Florida last weekend?...how many star players got their arse's handed to them last weekend?....all that writing for nothing...

Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:54 pm to tiger chaser
TM7, a 3 star, disagrees with OP.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 5:01 pm to The312
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The gross overall talent disparity also camoflouges lapses in discipline, lack of consistency, poor technique, ill-advised playcalls, strange Crowton-esque schemes, and deficiencies at positions like QB. On the other hand, to defeat marquee SEC nemeses, talent alone isn't sufficient.
While I see your point....and it is a very good one it begs the question:
When can we make a judgement on how good we are? It seems like a check off list that we all may grade differently....when we look at the whole of the SEC or top tier teams.
Granted, all those things mentioned were evident last year but I have to add....They were evident all year.
If you didn't look at the North Carolina game and say to yourself "It's gonna be a long season".....
Honestly, I don't see much of the same crap I was pulling out my hair about last year.
And because we beat Alabama last year what does that say about their team last year. I mean, remember, we were bad, just surviving at times....so what does that say about the programs we beat that are at our talent level?
I saw Saban make a couple bonehead decisions in the FLorida game (one of which was keeping his starting running back in the game after Florida was down and out). Not to mention our other foe South Carolina who's coach made a few bad calls..
Granted we shot our selves in the foot several time in the past few years but (I know I'm repeating myself) we saw those mistakes and lack of discipline, etc. early on in games against teams we were superior to.
I'm not to sure we'll take the West this year because I think Bama is point better than us but on the other hand I hope to heck we beat them at their place and take the crown...that sure would look good for our program. I really like your observation about the talent pool. That makes a lot of sense.
BTW, what was our ranking the years we won the championship in 03 and 07.
Just to back up some of your points which I agree with... I looked up our record since 07 against the teams you mentioned and threw in Georgia and Arkansas just for the heck of it and we're 11-9; without Arkansas (which i hate just as much as Alabama and any team Houston Nutt coaches) were 10-6...I think. I wonder what their records are. I may go research and post it....?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 5:02 pm to Hiyoka
quote:No. But it probably depends on who you talk to. Murray was also a year ahead.
Didn't he get beat out by Murray before he got kicked off the team anyway?
Mett could start and perform well on any team in the league right now, including ours.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:25 pm to The312
while i think bama's run game is slightly better than lsu's, i think lsu's passing game is slightly better than bama's, even with the drops in the first half of the ky game. plus brantley is out.
lsu 30 florida 10 or 13
tenn's offense is similar to wv's in that they pass well but can't run the ball. not good for tenn. i see lsu with a comfortable win
if you watched the scar/aub game, you saw an incredibly inconsistent and mistake prone auburn team. their defense is not good at all. their offense is very inconsistent. i see lsu with another comfortable win
lsu might not get style points in the next 3 games but, the schedule is significantly tougher than bama's in the same stretch
lsu 30 florida 10 or 13
tenn's offense is similar to wv's in that they pass well but can't run the ball. not good for tenn. i see lsu with a comfortable win
if you watched the scar/aub game, you saw an incredibly inconsistent and mistake prone auburn team. their defense is not good at all. their offense is very inconsistent. i see lsu with another comfortable win
lsu might not get style points in the next 3 games but, the schedule is significantly tougher than bama's in the same stretch
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:26 pm to graychef
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But the coaching advantage never will
That's what I'm talking about!!!
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:42 pm to The312
Evaporates? Really? So when LSU starts playing Western Kentucky and Ole Miss is the talent level gong to condense thus completing the water cycle?
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:55 pm to The312
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There is a statistically significant and incontrovertible correlation between recruiting rankings and on-field performance
There are several examples out there that prove this FALSE! Especially on a particular year... FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, Clemson, Bama.
By recruit rankings - I guess you mean Rivals?
At which adjustment?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 7:05 pm to The312
Talent level? Wake up!!!! WHO DAT you think we been playing lately..... I know Ky is down this season but Jeez.....
Personally, I think the SEC west top 3-4 are better than anywhere in the country. BTW: I like the 40-1 record against everyone but SEC west competition in 2010 - that's phenomenal!
Now, Florida, Tenn, and Auburn are still top-tier SEC teams (i.e. among the top 50% echelon) but they are not any better than what we have played to date. Oregon and WVU will prove to be top 10 teams by the time the season ends. I don't know about our next 3 opponents.....
Coaching is always good and trickeration is better. We'll do what needs to be done when it is necessary. Until then we will just sit back and kick some arse until the "time is right!" \

Personally, I think the SEC west top 3-4 are better than anywhere in the country. BTW: I like the 40-1 record against everyone but SEC west competition in 2010 - that's phenomenal!
Now, Florida, Tenn, and Auburn are still top-tier SEC teams (i.e. among the top 50% echelon) but they are not any better than what we have played to date. Oregon and WVU will prove to be top 10 teams by the time the season ends. I don't know about our next 3 opponents.....
Coaching is always good and trickeration is better. We'll do what needs to be done when it is necessary. Until then we will just sit back and kick some arse until the "time is right!" \
Posted on 10/3/11 at 7:06 pm to The312
To the OP, I find your post to be heavy laden with excessively embellished adjectives, which left me feeling forlorn and slightly befuddled as to your objective in explicating your perception.
Seriously, you lost me at "expecially"
Seriously, you lost me at "expecially"
Posted on 10/3/11 at 7:20 pm to The312
So hows the talent advantage working for teams like, fsu, usc, osu? According to rivals they should be beating the lesser teams.
What about auburn vs clemson? UGA last year, uga vs boise?
Ole Miss vs BYU?
shite even Notre Dame.
Your point isnt really valid. Look at texas last year, and we will look at texas over the next few weeks to see if that talent advantage helps them.
What about auburn vs clemson? UGA last year, uga vs boise?
Ole Miss vs BYU?
shite even Notre Dame.
Your point isnt really valid. Look at texas last year, and we will look at texas over the next few weeks to see if that talent advantage helps them.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 7:23 pm to LSU_Lou
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To the OP, I find your post to be heavy laden with excessively embellished adjectives, which left me feeling forlorn and slightly befuddled as to your objective in explicating your perception.
312 is a Miles hater who has had a tough year so far. He's optimistic though that the next few opponent will turn it around.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 7:28 pm to The312
Lame post is lame.
How about a new post with Scout as our guide?
Then the guy who you are obsessed with ranking average goes to 5, not 1.4
Is that still astounding? Who's to say?
News flash: recruiting plus coaching equals success. And the line between 1 & 10 is minscule.
How about a new post with Scout as our guide?
Then the guy who you are obsessed with ranking average goes to 5, not 1.4
Is that still astounding? Who's to say?
News flash: recruiting plus coaching equals success. And the line between 1 & 10 is minscule.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:18 pm to The312
Way. Too. Many. Words. I'm going to go watch cartoons.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:04 pm to The312
'Using Rivals as our guide'
I think we have found the problem. I am constantly amazed at how people live and die on a recruits star value based on a bunch of 'experts' who the majority of have never coached or played above high school level and are obsessed with numbers.
I know a guy that is 6'6, 340, long arms and can lift a house. But he can't block worth a damn. It takes more than just numbers and who else is recruiting him to evaluate a recruits possible talent.
TM7 would not be at LSU if the current staff had not ignored all the notes above and saw that he was a football player despite his 'short' comings.
You wonder how Boise state, TCU, Virgina Tech constantly finish in the top 20 with constantly out of the top twenty classes. That is how.
Screw all the numbers and what everyone else says about someone till you see them yourself.
You realize that most recruiting services were started by a bunch of guys that would have been at home on the rant being the experts of all things football that they are. Then they pull out their computers and try to assign a number to everythingto justify their misguided view.
Hell, we got all the numbers lets just play it on the game box of choice and forget about using real players......
OK, old man rant done now. Feel free to spout shite now.

I think we have found the problem. I am constantly amazed at how people live and die on a recruits star value based on a bunch of 'experts' who the majority of have never coached or played above high school level and are obsessed with numbers.
I know a guy that is 6'6, 340, long arms and can lift a house. But he can't block worth a damn. It takes more than just numbers and who else is recruiting him to evaluate a recruits possible talent.
TM7 would not be at LSU if the current staff had not ignored all the notes above and saw that he was a football player despite his 'short' comings.
You wonder how Boise state, TCU, Virgina Tech constantly finish in the top 20 with constantly out of the top twenty classes. That is how.
Screw all the numbers and what everyone else says about someone till you see them yourself.
You realize that most recruiting services were started by a bunch of guys that would have been at home on the rant being the experts of all things football that they are. Then they pull out their computers and try to assign a number to everythingto justify their misguided view.
Hell, we got all the numbers lets just play it on the game box of choice and forget about using real players......
OK, old man rant done now. Feel free to spout shite now.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:28 pm to The312
Great post! Someone gets it. 
Posted on 10/4/11 at 12:06 am to The312
Is this SlowFloPros new alias?
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