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re: LSU's RBI problem as shown through HRs

Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:23 pm to
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I want him dropped to 2 in the line up. The likelihood of him hitting a 3 run HR there on his first AB is the same as it is for hitting a 2 run HR now.

But really you just want him to have more opportunities with guys on base. All you can do is try to stack the probabilities in your favor. Batting him 2nd with Morgan in front of him helps. And especially batting Milazzo 8th with one of the middle infielders batting 9th.


That’s all fine and good, but with Crews at 2 his many RBIs would Morgan lose? How many would Doughty lose? Dugas? Would Morgan hit at lead off? Would you need a big LHed bat to break up all those righties?

I don’t have the answer, but it seems too many are worried about boosting Crews’ RBI numbers and not winning games.

FWIW, I saw Crews bat several times this weekend with one or two men on base and he didn’t drive them in. Is it because he’s not clutch? I don’t know. It may be because with men on he doesn’t see any good pitches.

I want us to win. I think Crews is a terrific talent and is good enough to hit any where at the top of the order. We just need more guys making contact, getting on base and not striking out so Crews and everyone else can score more runs.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:33 pm to
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Other than creating an optimal batting order, there's nothing else you can do to "game" the system to create more multi-run HRs. Most are gonna be solo shots just due to the nature of baseball regardless of order placement. But the more opportunities you give Crews, Morgan, Doughty, and Dugas, the better the offense will b

Overall in mlb in 2020 59.5% of homers were solo homers. 2019 had the same percentage. Now do leadoff hitters in mlb hit more or less I don’t know.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:35 pm to
It's not about specifically boosting Crews' RBI numbers. It's that with his current production, there have been potential runs left on the table. He's our best hitter, guaranteeing that he takes 20% of hit at bats with no one on is artificially capping his potential run production.

It would absolutely take away RBI opportunities from other guys. The idea is that that you're taking them away from lesser hitters and giving them to better hitters. I don't think it's necessarily fair to call Morgan or Doughty a less.er hitter I think they're either tied for 2nd or 2/3 in all around hitters on .the team

But, as I said, moving Crews to 2 isn't the only thing that would improve his RBI chances. Moving Milazzo to 8 would also bring some improvement. It's honestly pretty ridiculous that we haven't really seen it happen (once I think) to this point in the season.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Crews is the worst offender. He has 7 HRs and 7 RBIs with them. Obviously, all solo shots.


Not his fault the guys in front of him aren't getting on base.

7 homers is good for this point in the season.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:39 pm to
Crews himself prefers to hit leadoff
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:41 pm to
PM’s problem is in evaluating his talent and reaching s consensus such that the lineup on opening day makes sense. He changes players around so much that it hurts continuity, team play and it has to hurt an individuals confidence knowing he wasn’t good enough to play where he practiced most of the preseason and now he had to move.

How many infield combos have we seen this year? First base is the only stable position. We have juggled our catchers. With Gio’s injury CF is a revolving door. I believe we’ve had three other starters there.
Posted by nps6724
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:41 pm to
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Overall in mlb in 2020 59.5% of homers were solo homers. 2019 had the same percentage. Now do leadoff hitters in mlb hit more or less I don’t know.



It's certainly possible just due to being the only hitters 100% guaranteed to bat with the bases empty at least once per game.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:42 pm to
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Crews himself prefers to hit leadoff

Has that been stated before? I haven't seen it anywhere, but I haven't been keeping up with the newspaper articles as much lately.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:42 pm to
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Can you do strikeouts with runners in scoring position and less than 2 outs
So far I'm through the UNO game.

With less than 2 outs and RISP:

131 PAs, 95 ABs, 26 Hits, 22Ks, 22 BBs, 4 HBPs, 7 SFs, 1 SH, 55 RBI.

BA is 0.274, OBP is 0.397, K%/PA is 0.168
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:45 pm to
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So far I'm through the UNO game.


It's about to get a lot less fun.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:48 pm to
Yes, Paul stated it.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:51 pm to
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It's not about specifically boosting Crews' RBI numbers. It's that with his current production, there have been potential runs left on the table. He's our best hitter, guaranteeing that he takes 20% of hit at bats with no one on is artificially capping his potential run production.


In SEC play Crews has a 308 average. He is behind only one regular, Morgan. (Note Bianco and Arnold are also higher)
He has one homer which ties him eith multiple guys for second. Dugas has 3. He only has 1 RBI. His slugging pct. is a good 462, but he’s way behind Morgan and Dugas. Now he’s tied for the team lead with 8 hits, but he has no walls or HBP; thus is OB% is the same as his batting average 308 which isn’t extraordinary.

He hasn’t been out best hitter in SEC, but I do believe he eventually will be.
Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:53 pm to
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So far I'm through the UNO game.



ell, do you still have a day job?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:53 pm to
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It's certainly possible just due to being the only hitters 100% guaranteed to bat with the bases empty at least once per game.


You would think that the lead off batter and the two hole hitter would have a slightly higher percentage.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:55 pm to
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His slugging pct. is a good 462, but he’s way behind Morgan


5/6 with a HR and 3 doubles will do that

That game was unreal.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:56 pm to
Crews was 1-8 out of the leadoff spot in conference. He's 7-18 in the leadoff spot in conference.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Crews was 1-8 out of the leadoff spot in conference. He's 7-18 in the leadoff spot in conference.
Our only win is with him leading not off. FWIW!!!
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:08 pm to
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ell, do you still have a day job?
I do but Russian doesn't believe me.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:15 pm to
Totals for the season less than 2 outs and RISP:

184 PAs, 139 ABs, 37 Hits, 28 BBs (2 IBB), 4 HBP, 36 Ks, 8 SFs, 2 SHs, 74 RBIs.

BA is 0.266, OPB is 0.375, K%/PA is 0.196

Bianco (0.429), Drost (0.375), Travinski (0.333), and Doughty (0.320) have the highest K rates.

Arnold's is 0 and so is Beloso. Crews' is at 0.053

Morgan is hitting 0.500 with 13 RBIs in this situation. Arnold 0.375. Thompson 0.333. Dugas 0.316 with 14 RBI. Doughty 0.286 with 14 RBI as well.

Crews is only batting 0.083 (1 for 12) but has 7 walks which is good for the 5th highest OBP at 0.421. He only has 1 RBI.

Bianco, Safford, and Cranford have no hits and are a combined 0-15 with 3 walks and 6 Ks. They do have 3 RBIs however.

Other OBP leaders are Morgan 0.545, Beloso 0.533, with Arnold and Travinski both at 0.500.


ETA: I did not include Hellmers or Gio in the post above. Hellmers had 3 PAs and Gio had just 1. Hellmers had 2 Ks and no hits. Gio got a hit and an RBI.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:24 pm to
Without him leading off, yes.
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