re: LSU's offense and Gary Crowton

2001 BYU - 618 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year.
2002 BYU - 272 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 2nd year.
2003 BYU - 196 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year.
2004 BYU - 267 Points scored in 11 games. Crowton's 4th year.
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2005 BYU - 396 Points scored in 12 games. 1st year w/o Crowton.
2006 BYU - 478 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton.

2005 Oregon - 414 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 1st year.
2006 Oregon - 383 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year.
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2007 Oregon - 496 Points scored in 13 games. 1st year w/o Crowton.
2008 Oregon - 545 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton.


2007 LSU - 541 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year.
2008 LSU - 402 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year.
2009 LSU - 306 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year.
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History. 1st year great. 2nd and subsequent years worse. After he is fired, the offense gets much better.
Both Oregon and BYU were better served getting rid of him. This makes too much sense, huh?

I don't necessarily disagree with you. The main problems I see is not necessarily play calling, but mediocre QB play and a terrible O-Line.

Miles and the recruiting staff needs to concentrate on the big boys. Forget the flashy RB's and WR's. They awe the recruiting gurus with their speed and atheletic abiltiy, but the big boy's is were great teams start/end.

I want to see some damn beef on that O-Line. No more damn finesse. Just a mean nasty dirty O-Line that wants to kick some arse!!

I noticed your saying about RP on the bottom.

Have you looked at his stats this year??

23 TD and 2 Int.

That is not Cecil!! That is a QB and he is a difference maker. I almost wish LSU would have kept him despite all his crap.

One thing that still blows my mind about the Ole Miss game that gets overshadowed by Miles stupid timeouts is the fact that Keiland ran for like 60 yards in the first half, and then did not run the ball until the end of the third quarter.

That is just inexplicably stupid!!

It's initials damn sure are G.C.

In short, the 2007 offense was a Crowton offense in name only.

In 2008 and 2009 you have had the true Gary Crowton offense.

Behold, the splendor and magic of genuine untempered wizardry!

Or frickin not dude.

But there is nothing new under the sun, we've been told this before-- and after some have read it, heard it, sensed it, intuited it, reasoned it and hell, have now SEEN it, there yet remains subscribers to this fricken sham known as the "wizard."

GTFO!

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The main problems I see is not necessarily play calling, but mediocre QB play and a terrible O-Line.

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The o-line was beyond bad this year, and that makes any offense look bad. But why do people who defend Crowton's coaching ability forget about:

1.Running the option to the short side of the field. The few times we have run the option towards the wide side of the field, we get at least 8 yards.

2. The LA Tech game. I'm not going to sit back and badmouth Lee, but there was no reason for Crowton to call pass plays that many times when Keiland was runing the ball well.

3. 07 Kentucky- 2nd half: Lack of Charles Scott
4. 08 Bama game: Did Lee really have to throw that many passes vs Bama?

5. Thinking that Hatch could have been the starting QB

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Qes Miles?

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scheme wise the 2007 offense is exactly what we are running now. maybe the problem with Crowton is that he comes up with an excellent initial plan for what he wants to do at a program and then does little to adapt it from year to year. That would create tendencies and a comfortable familiarization for opposing DCs to lean on.

Or

maybe our lack of a consistent running game coupled with a QB not yet ready to take on a pass first role created our offensive deficiency.

Or

Maybe the answer is that there is some truth to both.

Most guys have an offense that has enough flexibility to attack any perceived tendencies.

All I know is we stunk on offense this year and something has to change. Can Crowton bring about that change? Hell I don't know that either but the facts pointed out aren't necessarily pointing in his favor.

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The exploits of the 2007 offense have become almost mythical.
It wasn't really all that and a bag of chips.

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This post shouldn't be taken as an apology for GC but the '07 offense was special (wherever the credit should go).

Just consider how they abused what are generally regarded as the top line DC's and the like:
a) Bud Foster (VT) - there was a reason that game was "not in question" so early (598 yds total O)
b) Muschamp - 350 yds in the 2nd half alone and that without any credit for LaFell's bobble and handoff to AU
c) Saban (41 pts and 475 yds O)
d) Chavis (464 yds O with a backup QB)
e) Heacock (OSU) - 38 pts

Also recall that Flynn played hurt for much of the season and we were without Early for a few games as well.

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I will start with a hint: It damn sure is not Gary Crowton

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incorrect