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re: LSU's 2 losses in 2012

Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3803 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:38 pm to
LE , you're exactly right. No one is calling for Miles' head. My god, this board has turned into a call to arms. You either fall on one side or the other apparently. Any, and I mean ANY critique of the team results in a call to arms for these morons who will defend any perceived slight.
Posted by calicrawdaddy
Santa Clarita, CA.
Member since May 2009
374 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:41 pm to
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Lol. I would bet any sum of money that the next two years will be the worst under miles. A lot of regression, a nega-tiger dream. 2015 will be when we start to pick ourselves up, but our QB position and RB position will be extremely weak, but we may have a good defense if Chavis is around.


Step away from the computer and literally frick your own face.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263356 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:42 pm to
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LE , you're exactly right. No one is calling for Miles' head. My god, this board has turned into a call to arms. You either fall on one side or the other apparently. Any, and I mean ANY critique of the team results in a call to arms for these morons who will defend any perceived slight.


Some people literally can't handle a hint of negativity, even if it's perceived. I don't have a clue why they are on a message board. You can't say anything without instantly being put into one of two extreme camps.

Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:44 pm to
Scroll up....poster was calling anyone who wasn't disgusted with this team losers


I'm not a huge miles guy, actually not even a marginal fan, drives me nuts1, but usually ends up with result I want


And all I said was last year was final year Trent had....I said it was time for him to go many times last year so not sure how I defended him outside saying let it play out.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:45 pm to
You can critique all u want but when we say sky isn't falling for finishing in top 5 we are called pumpers...even if we aren't fans of miles and esp chavis
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52834 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:47 pm to
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Why does everyone just assume they'll beat UGA?


I'm putting money on it. I think Bama wins big.


I am not saying UGA will beat Bama, but to the media it is a foregone conclusion. I guess you agree. What will the line be?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263356 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:51 pm to
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I am not saying UGA will beat Bama, but to the media it is a foregone conclusion. I guess you agree. What will the line be?


Probably Bana -6.5

UGA hasn't shown up for a lot of big games over the years and struggles against a strong defense. Just have a strong feeling Bama wins this one by two scores or more.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48709 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:54 pm to
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Why does everyone just assume they'll beat UGA?

I have won some money betting on Bama, and Saban is great, but, I am not sure that Bama beats UGA.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:59 pm to
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Did I say we lost...or did I say we STRUGGLED. You do realize that one can win and still STRUGGLE against inferior opponents. Do you dispute my characterization that we STRUGGLED to beat a 5-5 Ole Miss team and a sub-.500 Arkansas team?


We just aren't as good as some would like to believe. If anything he has done a masterful job winning 10 games this season.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:09 pm to
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It's understandable.


The BCS is not just, but it is understandable. It has produced affirmative action for conferences that do not belong in the mix at all. The BCS must extend invites to teams such as Rutgers or Louisville or whoever because of TV money. It is a joke. It cannot be taken seriously. The upcoming playoff looks to change that which leads me to believe that a level field playoff system will not happen. It would be full of SEC teams this year, including a torpid LSU.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93808 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:09 pm to
It's so easy to draw out the normal "I will always be right!" posters. It's quite easy to get them all antsy.

Just goes to show that there are a number of posters that will do absolutely anything to downplay a successful season. They will argue until they are blue in the face to let us all know that Les Miles will never have another championship season.

Same battle cry since 08. It's funny because he's been winning and he won another championship. (yes, I know those same posters will downplay an SEC championship)

312 would complain that a national championship wouldn't mean anything for Miles because it didn't say Lombardi on it.

BTW, Lester.....all good points. But as for me, I'm not one to blame 100% on coaches. It's the coaches responsibity to get a team prepared and a teams responsibility to make those preparations look like they're supposed to. 50/50.

Bottom line is results after preperation. 10-2 and another Top 5-6 finish.

I'll let the rest of these posters that worship Saban talks amongst themselves. They're so wrapped up with Saban and Saban alone that they'll do what they can to justify their arguments. Yet, Urban did the same thing at Florida and there was no outrage and crying like there is with Saban.

Scorned.
This post was edited on 11/24/12 at 9:10 pm
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:12 pm to
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U act like he's never won a big game.


The sad fact is that the BCS gods wiped that win out as though it never occurred. It is completely unjust, but CLM had better beat Saban and appear in the SEC championship next year or he will begin to feel serious heat. God help him if LSU does worse than this year. No excuses. Just win, baby.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263356 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:14 pm to
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The BCS is not just, but it is understandable. It has produced affirmative action for conferences that do not belong in the mix at all. The BCS must extend invites to teams such as Rutgers or Louisville or whoever because of TV money. It is a joke. It cannot be taken seriously. The upcoming playoff looks to change that which leads me to believe that a level field playoff system will not happen. It would be full of SEC teams this year, including a torpid LSU.


Well, I am not defending the BCS, just stating that it's changed the postseason forever. It isn't about making a bowl game, it's about making a BCS game at the minimum and the NC at best. Fans of established programs just don't get all that excited about playing in the Chik Fil A anymore.

Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:16 pm to
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torpid


Word of the day.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
2991 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:18 pm to
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I'll let the rest of these posters that worship Saban talks amongst themselves. They're so wrapped up with Saban and Saban alone that they'll do what they can to justify their arguments. Yet, Urban did the same thing at Florida and there was no outrage and crying like there is with Saban.


You're the one wrapped up with Saban, you talk about him constantly, so stop calling people out for talking about him. And your love for miles is just as pathetic as all these losers on here that cry about Saban
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93808 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:18 pm to
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he will begin to feel serious heat.


Ok? Then what? Who comes in and takes a job with a program that fires a successful coach and turns around and becomes MORE successful than Miles?
Does that coach continue the amazing recruiting classes? Is that coach good enough to continue double digit wins every year?
How long are you willing to wait to let this coach install new staffs and styles?

Then what of that coach isn't as good and LSU falls out of elite class? How long does it take to get back on their feet?

There's more to think about than just get rid of a coach and replace him with whoever
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93808 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:19 pm to
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You're the one wrapped up with Saban, you talk about him constantly, so stop calling people out for talking about him. And your love for miles is just as pathetic as all these losers on here that cry about Saban


who the frick let this clown in?
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:22 pm to
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312 would complain that a national championship wouldn't mean anything for Miles because it didn't say Lombardi on it.


Don't be a bigger hyperbolic dunce than you typically are.

quote:

It's so easy to draw out the normal "I will always be right!" posters. It's quite easy to get them all antsy.


This is ironic. You're so predictable that you could be an automaton. When LSU plays well and win, you laud Miles. When they play poorly and win, you laud Miles. When they lose, you concoct excuses and laud Miles. Irrespective of the evidence, your response remains the same. That's the hallmark of irrational sycophancy. You are literally incapable of objectively evaluting Miles.

quote:

I'll let the rest of these posters that worship Saban talks amongst themselves. They're so wrapped up with Saban and Saban alone that they'll do what they can to justify their arguments. Yet, Urban did the same thing at Florida and there was no outrage and crying like there is with Saban.

Scorned.


This is risible. Rather than just acknowledging what anyone with two connected nuerons can see - that Bama is a better program than LSU right now and that so long as that remains the case LSU will have difficulty capturing NC's - you try to recaste the issue as some emotional longing to obscure the underlying truth. It's hilarious.

Ultimately, you're content being second best so long as you get to smother your face in the warm bosom of your idol. That's fine. I'm not fine with being second best. I think LSU can be and should be a championship dynasty. I think we should be winning two NC's out of 3, rather than Bama. We have the facilities, money, commitment, and recruiting base to achieve that sort of result. It's not unrealistic. We just need consistently ELITE tactical coaching to reach that echelon. We haven't gotten it. We gotten good coaching, but not great.


Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20452 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:22 pm to
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beat Saban and appear in the SEC championship next year or he will begin to feel serious heat. God help him if LSU does worse than this year. No excuses.


You sound like the rich hick that threatens Coach Gaines in FNL.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263356 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:26 pm to
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There's more to think about than just get rid of a coach and replace him with whoever


Probably isn't 5% that want Miles replaced and you can find that 5% in any fan base (Except Bama, where they worship the coach.)

Criticism of Miles doesn't necessarily mean someone wants him gone. He's probably top five in the nation but it doesn't mean he's perfect.
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