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re: LSU women’s sports can’t get over the hump.

Posted on 5/30/21 at 2:15 am to
Posted by Tigersonfire
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 2:15 am to
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Torina thinks it’s a slumber party.


With pillow fights and all?? PICS???
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 2:41 am to
Oh look another women’s coach of a decade that hasn’t produced anything yet makes millions. (Over her career). God damn white males.....
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:20 am to
I posted this on another thread.

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I hope Beth retires here. However, look at the softball Facebook and Instagram pages. This program has many soccer mom-and-dad type fans who bristle at anything said or posted about softball that they deem “negative”—the same people who think DeAngelo Sanchez is such a great fan.

In other words, there is no real push for Beth and Scott to take a hard-eyed look at the program in the offseason and ask, “Okay, what do we need to do to get from a top 15 program to a top 5 program?”

Most softball fans seem perfectly content where we are and there is no real distress that our last trip to OKC gets further and further in the rear view mirror. That’s why Dobson gets a pass every year for this team’s utter offensive futility against WCWS-level teams. Host Regional. Lose Super on road. (Or get swept at home.) Rinse. Repeat. The majority of fans, the coaching staff, and the AD administration seem perfectly happy with that. I don’t like it but it is what it is.


So for the bandwagon fans who show up this time of year, get it through your heads: Beth is going nowhere unless she chooses to leave, and rightly so.

The big question: does Scott call a sit-down with Beth and say “we need to discuss your hitting coach”? I’m guessing no because Scott likely feels he has enough on his plate with the baseball hire, the Title IX thing, etc. I’m sure that to Scott, Howard Dobson can percolate at least another year.

But it is an area of concern with Beth. She seems to be a “happy family” type of coach and in a comfort zone with her buddies on the staff. She’ll be loyal to Dobson til likely it puts her job in danger unless Scott lays down the law. If Scott doesn’t, I don’t think Beth’s seat gets warm until the end of the 2023 season, assuming things keep rocking along like they are.

But as pointed out, there are some disturbing trends that Beth needs to get hold of—including a creeping Fargas-like tendency to recruit and play players who have no business in the SEC or an LSU uniform.
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:26 am to
I think the Lady Tigers are sending 19 to the T&F Championships.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19797 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:47 am to
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Not sure what the answer is to the catcher situation until Bergeron gets here unless they use the portal


What’s with Hayden Brown? The couple times I saw her pinch hit, she walloped the ball. As someone pointed out, she hit .714 in high school.

Given the dismal state of the catching position this season, I’m astounded Beth kept her at the end of the bench.
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:08 am to
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Given the dismal state of the catching position this season,


It started with the huge miss on Hemphill in that 2016 class. The staff didn’t think she could hit on the SEC level and didn’t make a serious effort to reel her in.

The State produced two top 25 national players that year, ironically at catcher and second base, and neither are on the roster. Add those two Louisiana players and this is a top 5 team with a real shot at making a run.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37018 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:12 am to
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thought we were bad at 2b in 15-17 on some really good teams. As bad as we were then, we have been atrocious since. That situation and the transfer it caused set us back a few years at that position and we continue to suffer there.


You really need to get over the Nicki Dawson situation. Like turn the page and let it go.
Posted by LSUAshlyn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
616 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:18 am to
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You really need to get over the Nicki Dawson situation. Like turn the page and let it go.


If you don’t want to discuss state of the program and how we arrived at this point, which is what this thread is about, then don’t chime in. It’s relevant and being below average at catcher and 2b probably just cost us a World Series birth. Even as dense as you are I’m sure you can see that.

Posted by Dwainwright
Member since Jun 2017
758 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:10 pm to
Someone posted in another threat that the player that was pegged as starting at 2b got hurt and missed the entire season. Cummins plays with a lot of passion. If she can improve her hitting just a little she is ok as a #9 hitter. When Bergeron arrives in 2 years she will be the C for 4 years. Another Savannah Jaquish. Gutierrez is solid at 1b. You have Pleasants, Briggs, Clarke and Sunseri all returning. We need one more solid outfielder and a new 3b. With Sunseri, Kilponen and Wickersham back there is certainly a solid nucleus returning. If Antoine can regain the form she had as a frosh she could lock down RF. She is really good defensively. With a borderline Top 5 recruiting class coming in this team certainly can make a run to the WCWS
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86388 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:14 pm to
Doesnt Womens Track and field win a shite load?
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
Key Biscayne, FL
Member since Sep 2003
3549 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:18 pm to
Let's hope the Lady Tigers T&F brings home the trophy!
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37018 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:31 pm to
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below average at catcher and 2b probably just cost us a World Series birth


I didn't know we were expecting.

I dont disagree. I just remember what a fanboy you were of Nicki Dawson to the point where it was nauseating.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37018 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:36 pm to
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If Antoine can regain the form she had as a frosh she could lock down RF


If so, she will be locking it down somewhere else. She announced a while back she will enter the transfer portal. They even honored her on senior day this year, so it seems to be a done deal
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70783 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:38 pm to
I'm honestly not concerned about the OF next season. Plenty of depth with two highly recruited OF's coming in. They have to address the infield defense and getting more competitive hitting across the board outside of Briggs and Pleasants. Portal is starting to fill up already so maybe it could be an opportunity to address some of these weak spots.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 3:41 pm
Posted by deltaqueen527
Member since May 2021
86 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 4:28 pm to
This just in: who gives a shite
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19797 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:15 pm to
Just watched the press conference highlights on Instagram. Certainly touching but I am getting the impression that Beth lives in a bit of a fantasy world regarding what it takes to get over the next hurdle.

She states emphatically—“They got the experience, they won’t lose this game again!”

Well Coach, they’ve lost “this game” the last four years in a row. It doesn’t happen by magic-speak and all the comments from the “happy family” fans about “we’ll get ‘em next time!” are not going to magically make it happen either.

You are going to have to make some hard decisions about your staff and make the needed change that is as obvious as the noses on all our faces.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19797 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 6:14 pm to
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Cummins plays with a lot of passion. If she can improve her hitting just a little she is ok as a #9 hitter.


You want WAY more offensively out of your catcher than being the number nine hitter.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted by bcolimpo
Philly
Member since May 2021
105 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:56 pm to
Who is the 2B from the state? With Hemphill, we make WCWS in 2018 and 2019.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70783 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:02 pm to
They are referring to Nicky Dawson who transferred out after her freshmen year at LSU. Some were crazily overhyping her to the point of some type of program changer (which is why there is a lot of backlash and conflict) but she is a good 2B and would be an upgrade over Tidwell this year. She just finished up her career at Baylor.

This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70783 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:07 pm to
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She states emphatically—“They got the experience, they won’t lose this game again!”



We didn't lose to Florida St due to lack of experience, not sure I'm following that part.
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