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re: LSU running back Leonard Fournette shows support for Alton Sterling
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:54 am to Merlin08
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:54 am to Merlin08
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When white officers die from black men or white cops kill white people its NOT news because the society does not see anything wrong with it.
Name one person who sees nothing wrong with a cop being killed by a black man. Name one person who is okay with police wrongfully killing white people. It's just not true.
The reason that Baton Rouge and Minnesota and other cases are newsworthy is because there is a broader societal issue at play, namely a pattern of police using excessive force that results in the death of suspects who all are black. When criminals commit violent crimes, it's tragic but there is not the broader societal issue. Criminals commit crimes. It's what they do. But cops are there to protect and keep the peace. Cops are trained what to do in various scenarios and are expected to act appropriately. No one begrudges a cop who is forced to put down a suspect who has a gun drawn. But when a cop puts down a suspect who is restrained and who has empty hands, the cop has betrayed his training and betrayed his trust to the public. And that's a big deal.
All lives do matter. The lives of the five officers gunned down last night in Dallas were important and we grieve their loss. We all hope that those responsible are caught and punished appropriately. We all wish we could go back in time and prevent it. No one is saying their lives don't matter.
But Alston Sterling's life mattered too. He sounds like a terrible person but being a terrible person does not mean he deserved to die at the hands of a police officer while on his back, being restrained and with empty hands. The fact that some posters here cite his crimes over the past 20 years as justifying his death is really, really troubling. You say "ALL LIVES MATTER!" but it is clear that you don't think his did. And it's that attitude that is at the root of anger in the black community and it is time people started to wake up to it.
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Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:55 am to lsupride87
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I honestly, at this point in time, have no clue how you can say that. But oh well
video I saw - two cops were on Alton. He was struggling but they had him pinned. The cop was free enough to pull his gun and put it to Alton's chest.
Do I think it is some type of lets murder this guy because we can? Not at all. I bet it was accidental. That said still manslaughter
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:55 am to lsupride87
quote:
didn't deserve to be gunned down.
quote:Seems like you dont need them
We have laws and courts for a reason.
quote:When is the breaking point of not putting a guys face on a t shirt even if he was killed in cold blood?(which I dont even think happened here)
so what?
He was a bad guy
Jerry Sandusky?
Derrick Todd Lee?
If those guys are gunned down in the most brutal cop killing in history, is it cool to rock their mugs on our t shirts? Serious question.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:57 am to thelawnwranglers
quote:CNN confirmed a gun was found in his pocket. So you have a man, who has a gun in his pocket, who you admit was struggling, tasers were already used.
He was struggling but they had him pinned
At what point can the cops used their guns? When he finally actually points it at them? I mean we already know simply moving around with a gun in your pocket after being warned at gunpoint is still mansalughter in your opinion,
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:01 am to lsupride87
Leonard is a great running back,BUT! I guess a lot of u guys are celebrating black lives matter in Dallas today.SAD!!! 
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:03 am to lsupride87
Okay....calling this a cold blooded killing is simply untrue. It is not like they were walking by a complete stranger and said hey let's shoot this guy.
They were called out because someone felt their life was in danger and was told that the suspect was armed (WHICH HE WAS). When they proceeded to talk and apprehend the suspect he then resisted and witnesses said he reached into his pocket to get the gun. THEN THAT IS WHEN YOU SEE THE VIDEO.
AFTER the cops lives were clearly in danger and he was a larger man so two cops which is normal tried to subdue the suspect and put hand cuffs on him which you can see in the video he is DEFINITELY RESISTING. They did not have him face down and shoot him in the back ..he was shot in the chest because he kept struggling and in a split second decision the cops reacted. THEY DID what ANYONE else in that situation would do.
Think about WILL SMITH...if he would have reacted quicker he would be alive but he was trying to do the right thing and not pull a gun and he got killed for it. You do not have time to think...YOU JUST REACT....This is not on the Police
They were called out because someone felt their life was in danger and was told that the suspect was armed (WHICH HE WAS). When they proceeded to talk and apprehend the suspect he then resisted and witnesses said he reached into his pocket to get the gun. THEN THAT IS WHEN YOU SEE THE VIDEO.
AFTER the cops lives were clearly in danger and he was a larger man so two cops which is normal tried to subdue the suspect and put hand cuffs on him which you can see in the video he is DEFINITELY RESISTING. They did not have him face down and shoot him in the back ..he was shot in the chest because he kept struggling and in a split second decision the cops reacted. THEY DID what ANYONE else in that situation would do.
Think about WILL SMITH...if he would have reacted quicker he would be alive but he was trying to do the right thing and not pull a gun and he got killed for it. You do not have time to think...YOU JUST REACT....This is not on the Police
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:03 am to Will Cover
disappointing
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:03 am to ROPO
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But Alston Sterling's life mattered too. He sounds like a terrible person but being a terrible person does not mean he deserved to die at the hands of a police officer while on his back, being restrained and with empty hands.
It is a tragedy that a man lost his life but again if he just complied with the police officers from the beginning there would have never been a struggle. He was on his back but he was not completely restrained and you can't tell in any of the videos if he was going for a gun or not. We need to wait for all of the facts to come out before jumping to conclusion.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:04 am to ROPO
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And it's that attitude that is at the root of anger in the black community and it is time people started to wake up to it.
30% of the population commits the most crimes. So, does that mean Hispanics and blacks are targeted? Or are they simply committing more crimes?
Honestly, it's not like Latinos don't commit crimes in their own country, it's not like African countries are not riddled with warlords and criminals that rape and pillage the villages. The biggest diff is those countries don't have many white people to push the blame on.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:04 am to 1badboy
quote:This isnt fair to hint that LF is possibly happy about Dallas. I guarantee you he isnt. He is a good kid. I disagree with the wearing of his shirt, but I dont question his integrity
I guess a lot of u guys are celebrating black lives matter in Dallas today
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:09 am to lsupride87
he also 'liked' a video basically saying white lives will matter when black lives matter, sigh.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:10 am to geauxtigers456
quote:Unfortunate
he also 'liked' a video basically saying white lives will matter when black lives matter, sigh.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:12 am to 1badboy
Everyone that supports him wearing that shirt supports a child mollester....why would anyone wear a shirt with a CHILD MOLLESTER on it?
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 9:14 am
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:14 am to BowDownToLSU
quote:It is a slippery slope.
Everyone that supports him wearing that shirt supports a child mollester
I like to wear t shirts with Hitler on it. In no way do I support the holocaust, I just want to support those with suicidal thoughts because it is a terrible disease
Unfortunately, that isnt how this worksPosted on 7/8/16 at 9:17 am to ROPO
quote:
he'd probably tell you that he is wearing the image of someone who was executed by police while in their custody to speak out against the police taking sentencing matters - indeed the ultimate sentence - into their own hands far too frequently (even an isolated incident is too much but this isn't isolated).
If he would say this I would tell him he is misinformed and needs to get his facts straight. He was not in police custody as he was not handcuffed nor read his rights. He was still struggling with them. He was not shot in cold blood, he was not shot because of hatred, he was not shot because he was black. He was shot because the police felt their lives were in danger as a career criminal with an illegal gun was fighting with them on the ground. I can't say this enough. The cops may have done some wrong and a man lost his life because of it but that does not make them murderers or racist.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:21 am to geauxtigers33
ROPO has to be a shakita banana alter, right?
Started posting soon after that poster was banned for saying the cops reaped what they sow.
Started posting soon after that poster was banned for saying the cops reaped what they sow.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:23 am to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:Strong possibility
ROPO has to be a shakita banana alter, right?
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:27 am to geauxtigers456
quote:
he also 'liked' a video basically saying white lives will matter when black lives matter, sigh.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 9:38 am to ROPO
He was not in custody idiot.
Did you cheat to receive your brcc criminal justice associates degree?
Did you cheat to receive your brcc criminal justice associates degree?
Posted on 7/8/16 at 10:43 am to LsuTool
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