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re: LSU running back Leonard Fournette shows support for Alton Sterling

Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:28 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:28 am to
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Certainly if they did wrong a policeman should be charged and prosecuted but only after ALL the facts have been investigated. #toprotectandserve


There are multiple videos of 3 big cops having Alton pinned down with a Gun barrel aimed at Alton's chest. The cops were not in danger. They shot him 4 times point blank.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48280 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:32 am to
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What other reason is LF at LSU for then?
I swear some of you people are fricked in the head.


Its fricked in the head to expect the most famous athlete on lsu campus to not comment on a murder in baton rouge, at the hands of BRPD.
Who the hell is that guy to tell LF to shut up and run the ball?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42334 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:40 am to
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Its fricked in the head to expect the most famous athlete on lsu campus to not comment on a murder in baton rouge, at the hands of BRPD.
Who the hell is that guy to tell LF to shut up and run the ball?


We are getting the deal of lifetime trading a 40k scholarship for his football skills that we are translating into millions. Wearing a tshirt is such a muted respectable acknowledgement of the situation.
Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:41 am to
Look at rick daddy everybody.
He's posting about something other than JJ's greatness as an LSU qb.

Good for you rick daddy.

On a serious note had this been EPocic or JD Moore or any other white starter sporting a BRPD tshirt, I'd imagine that thread wouldn't have gone like this one... Especially from you "he's entitled to his opinion" people.

Shot dead legally or illegally, why would LF want to wear a picture of a criminal on his chest?
You are better than that bro. So much better.

But we live in the age where attention whoring is king! Not only does guy have to wear a shirt like that but he has to take it one step further and put it in the internet so the whole fricking world can see... YA!
Regardless if it's LF or some 14 year middle school girl. ... It's all the same to me.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42334 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 7:49 am to
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Shot dead legally or illegally, why would LF want to wear a picture of a criminal on his chest?
You are better than that bro. So much better.

Jesus this attitude really exist?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:25 am to
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Jesus this attitude really exist?
Yes, why would it not?

What we know. True facts:

This is Alton Sterling

9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession




Then, the night of the shooting, this is what we know:

Cops are called due to man causing a disturbance, with a possible gun. So fact #1 is cops came do to a call of a man with a gun, not joy riding looking for black people to kill

Fact #2. Cops used tasers in order to get subject to comply. I am not sure why some cops who just want to murder black people didnt just shoot to start Also, now we have a suspect with a gun not complying

Fact #3. The cops and Sterling go to the ground. The cops have their weapons drawn. The cops multiple times tell him not to move. They mention his gun. They again tell him not to move. Then we hear gun shots, they roll around, they exit the camera view, and then the shooting officer is heard saying "frick" in a panicked voice

Again, doesnt seem like the actions of some cops simply wanting to kill a black man. However, it is good for the DA to look at this to ensure execcisve force was not used. The video leading up to the whole ordeal should paint a good picture one way or the other.

So with all I listed, yes, I think it is ill advised and makes no common sense why LF or anyone else would want to show "support" for Sterling at this point by wearing his picture on a t shirt. Simply because they share the same skin color?

Regardless, I think LF is simply a young man easily influenced so he put on a shirt after people persuaded him to do so. I dont think it makes him a bad person. But I have no idea why people are saying "good for LF."
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 8:26 am
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16067 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:29 am to
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He is a great person, and I am sure he will make good choices.


Hmmm, well that's interesting.
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:29 am to
The difference is that the cops were white and the victim black (because most cops are white and most inner cities are populated with blacks) and it makes the news. It makes the news because someone ALWAYS makes it about race! When white officers die from black men or white cops kill white people its NOT news because the society does not see anything wrong with it. It is not just black lives that matter...ALL LIVES MATTER! That includes those that put their life on the line day and night to keep us safe. If doing their job is considered excessive than we are seriously in worse shape than anyone ever thought!
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3414 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:31 am to
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why would LF want to wear a picture of a criminal on his chest?
You are better than that bro. So much better.



I don't think Leonard is promoting the past decisions of Sterling. He probably does not even know the man. I think if you asked Leonard why he wore the shirt, he'd probably tell you that he is wearing the image of someone who was executed by police while in their custody to speak out against the police taking sentencing matters - indeed the ultimate sentence - into their own hands far too frequently (even an isolated incident is too much but this isn't isolated). I'm neither young, nor black, but if I were like Leonard, I'd rightfully be emotional about this incident, which occurred close to home. As a human being who does not have to deal with this I am troubled by it. And as an LSU graduate, TAF member and Tiger fan, I am very proud that Leonard Fournette is willing to use his following to help continue to shine a light on a significant problem in America.

Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:37 am to
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Shine a light on a significant problem in America


While I'm sure everyone here is ecstatic about your love and superfandom of LSU , what you said is retarded.
How about LF focus in the real problem which criminal activity committed over and over and over by those that are "close to home" as you labeled it.
Seems that would be better use of his time and would benefit society as whole in a much better manner.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:38 am to
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I think if you asked Leonard why he wore the shirt, he'd probably tell you that he is wearing the image of someone who was executed by police
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. As a human being who does not have to deal with this I am troubled by it
Will you be troubled if it is found the officers did no wrong, and yet people said they "executed" Sterling? While others threatened them and their families for doing their jobs? Would that also trouble you as a TAF member and LSU graduate?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42334 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:39 am to
His prior record has no bearing on what happen that night.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:40 am to
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His prior record has no bearing on what happen that night.
Never said it did. But that is the man whose face you are wearing on your shirt. He is the man that did all of those things.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:45 am to
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There are multiple videos of 3 big cops having Alton pinned down with a Gun barrel aimed at Alton's chest. The cops were not in danger. They shot him 4 times point blank.


There was only 2 cops and he was not completely pinned down. Also the cop said when he pulled his gone to not move and he continued to fight and shots were fired. I don't know if the cops did the right or wrong thing but the man was not innocent. If he complies with the cops from the beginning then this never happens. This was not murder and people need to stop throwing that word around. This was a police struggle that ended with shots fired and a man died.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42334 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:46 am to
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Will you be troubled if it is found the officers did no wrong,


lets stay in the present- what I saw in my opinion they did poorly. I don't imagine this is the outcome they wanted, but they didn't deliver in a tough situation. It is a tough thankless job. I wouldn't do it. I am not as good of a person as 99% of the cops in the US. They serve and protect out of a sense of duty, and are not that well compensate or appreciated.

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While others threatened them and their families for doing their jobs? Would that also trouble you as a TAF member and LSU graduate?


of course that troubles any normal person

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:47 am to
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This was not murder and people need to stop throwing that word around. This was a police struggle that ended with shots fired and a man died.

Nah. Murder and you are a "retarded racist" for suggesting anything different
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:48 am to
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lets stay in the present- what I saw in my opinion they did poorly. I don't imagine this is the outcome they wanted, but they didn't deliver in a tough situation
I honestly, at this point in time, have no clue how you can say that. But oh well
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:49 am to
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of course that troubles any normal person
But not enough to put on a t shirt. This whole situation, and everything around it is so fubar it is nauseating.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42334 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:50 am to
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Never said it did. But that is the man whose face you are wearing on your shirt. He is the man that did all of those things.


so what?

He was a bad guy that with all his flaws didn't deserve to be gunned down. We have laws and courts for a reason.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111494 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 8:53 am to
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didn't deserve to be gunned down.
quote:

We have laws and courts for a reason.
Seems like you dont need them


quote:

so what?

He was a bad guy
When is the breaking point of not putting a guys face on a t shirt even if he was killed in cold blood?(which I dont even think happened here)

Jerry Sandusky?
Derrick Todd Lee?

If those guys are gunned down in the most brutal cop killing in history, is it cool to rock their mugs on our t shirts? Serious question.
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