re: LSU returned 2 linemen with multiple starts and just 3 with any starts- All three got hurt

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I don't know why they couldn't bring in somebody right now as an analyst that could step in at any time similar to what nick does at bama.

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This is probably a good idea as insurance.

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He prob doesn’t have the balls to fire him if it ever becomes warranted. The way he makes a point to say how good of a job SE’s does tells me he is a little insecure with him to begin with

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Oh this is getting good


Completely agree by the way.

Just so we’re clear, that sounds like a potentially bad thing, no?

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Just stay general. Say your expectations are high. Say you think we should compete for the West every year or play on NYD.

If you want to separate expectations from your “predictions”, stop with the specifics especially regarding what our record should be every year

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I’ve said all along NY6 was the bar.

The actual prediction of record was for fun to see how close we can get to how the season plays out.

For the record I haven’t been far off. Called Miami as an overhyped easy win. Said Auburn was our second toughest game. Called UGA the swing game. O faired well in those.

Was wrong about UF, and thought while Bama would be a loss, it would be another war in TS. The reality of those are not positives for O.


He may hit the bar this year, that doesn’t mean one can’t still have doubts about the future.

It also doesn’t mean we reached our potential. Had we taken care of business against a mediocre UF team, we’re already locked into NY6 and a bubble CFP team.

A big win over UGA doesn’t excuse that.

Like with Miles, it’s the losses that ultimately define a season and determine how successful it was.

Fair or not, that’s always been the way it is.

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He may hit the bar this year, that doesn’t mean one can’t still have doubts about the future

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And all I’m getting are crickets from you. You just told me you were ready to predict his downfalls.

But guess what?? You can’t. Cause you are fricking confused & don’t actually know what you see. You see us beating UGA, you see the electricity on game day last weekend, you see what recruits are saying, and you’re confused. You’ve got nothing for me, do you bubba?

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And all I’m getting are crickets from you. You just told me you were ready to predict his downfalls.

But guess what?? You can’t. Cause you are fricking confused & don’t actually know what you see. You see us beating UGA, you see the electricity on game day last weekend, you see what recruits are saying, and you’re confused. You’ve got nothing for me, do you bubba?

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I already did, bubba.

I’ve posted this stuff and more multiple times, but will give you a cheat sheet for easy recall later. Bookmark it. I know I will.


O has whiffed on hiring an OC twice. He turned the LSU running game into a joke in 2.5 years. He hasn’t improved our OL or DL play in 2.5 years. Our offense is statistically worse than it ever was under Miles. He has proven to be far less effective as a recruiter and closer for his own program than he has as a set up man for another HC.

He still hasn’t landed a marquee RB or DL.


He loses a game he shouldn’t every year, throws players and coaches under the bus, appears to only want yes men around him, hasn’t beaten Nick Saban or Dan Mullen in multiple opportunities.


Every bit of success you tout as his own is built on a DC identified and hired by Miles and a QB developed by Miles that he only competed against Cincinnati to land. ONCE THOSE TWO ARE GONE, THIS PROGRAM IS FINISHED AS LONG AS O IS IN CHARGE.


Should I go on, bubba, or will that suffice so you can check the tape later

You’re gonna swing your nuts then give me that? And throw the ruined ____ in 2.5 years to try & add a dramatic affect?

No run game no line talent & wow look at that, right on par with the NY6 bowl game you have expectations to see.

Not an effective recruiter but will land a top 5-6 class.

No kudos for landing burrow, yap ok, I expected that.

Man you’re really going to be disappointed. You should have just went with he will fold once Aranda leaves. The other stuff lol.

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And throw the ruined ____ in 2.5 years to try & add a dramatic affect?

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So no response to any of that, as usual. Noted

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Not an effective recruiter but will land a top 5-6 class.

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I hope so. With the LA talent this year not landing a top 5 class would be an epic fricking fail.

Still doesn’t erase the class last year.

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No kudos for landing burrow, yap ok, I expected that.

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He beat out Cincinnati for a guy that wanted a big game atmosphere similar to The Shoe. What more credit does he deserve than that?

Good thing NSD went sideways too.

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Man you’re really going to be disappointed. You should have just went with he will fold once Aranda leaves. The other stuff lol.

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Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong. Hoping truly that you are right, but the problem is, even you know deep down Ed Orgeron will never get LSU a championship of any kind.


Honest question Earl, as an LSU fan, how did you feel about O before he was brought on in BR?

Good recruiter? Good DL guy?

How’d you feel about his time in Oxford?

Any take on his character or tactics?

Did you think he was the caliber of coach you’d want running your team at any point in the future?

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Why is it so hard to admit that this depth has to be built back up while not slacking in other areas.

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Elite programs run by elite coaches do not rebuild, they reload.

LSU pays elite coaching salaries. LSU spends elite program recruiting / facilities money. LSU fans pay elite program prices for tickets, concessions, parking, etc.

There's a lot of 'elite' spending with no elite program to show for it, at the moment.

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The only way I see Steve going anywhere is if Steve asked to be reassigned.

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Yes, but I think that's what Steve will do.

Just IMO.

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So no response to any of that, as usual. Noted

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As usual? Lol you can’t ecen acknowledge that playing 10 OL in 1 year is a win, sitting at 7-2:

But you just said he ruined the OL. It’s challenging to have a worthwhile conversation with some one with such a lack of perspective.

An off year at RB is not ruining the position. Not when you are attracting the prospects you are for next year.

Not only do you lack perspective but you’re emotional & dramatic. If you don’t get it now you never will: you’re just not wired to understand