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re: LSU returned 2 linemen with multiple starts and just 3 with any starts- All three got hurt

Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:36 pm to
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Better talent & better coaching.
So a better OC?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:37 pm to
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Earl will not admit that we can do better at OC. He has gone as far to say there are better OCs out there. So even though it's what he believes, he will never say it.






He told me before the bama game," im satisfied with the offense."


Its amazing how people's level of acceptance change.

He also couldnt fathom how i could say i wasnted miles gone after 2015 but also said our 2012- 2016 record was not god awful.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:38 pm to
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So, it's not possible we are seeing (or more likely acknowledging) flaws in O and his regime before you??


Damn, Lester really set himself up with that post. Well done Voodoo.

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Nah, gotta just be haters and trolls


That's probably what he'll say.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:38 pm to
Of course we can do better at OC. Dude I told you that when you asked me the other day.

Ensminger isn’t getting canned though. He’s been good enough. Don’t confuse that with I think he’s the best OC in the nation so we don’t have to go thru this again
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38043 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:40 pm to
What's funny is that SEs offense has produced far less results than any Miles offense.

Yes, sure. I would love to bring in more talent. And I think we will. But we need a better offensive system. This is clearly not working.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38043 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:41 pm to
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Ensminger isn’t getting canned though.
Do you think he could step down? I mean, wouldn't it be for the better of the program. Since you already admitted that we can do better at OC?

Nobody has to admit they made a mistake. He can just step down.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:42 pm to
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So, it’s not possible we are seeing (or more likely acknowledging) flaws in O and this regime before you??


You are entitled to your opinion. The one that was wrong offseason, so not sure what you’re standing on. But seriously, go for it and at least call his downfall here for me.

Cause last year it was he lost to terrible teams & he couldn’t recruit. What is it this year?

I know you aren’t sensible about what is happening along the OL this year. You think we have no talent on either line. What else are you going with?
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:42 pm to
Welcome back. So it seems we have the same Ole Les Miles crappy offense despite having fired the man. Sux, no?

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:42 pm to
Him retiring is the only hope for him not to be here next season
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:44 pm to
2 plays last week made me livid. The undr center playaction call and O trying to kick a damn field goal down 29 points.

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:47 pm to
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The expectations vs prediction stuff is a cop out. Your predictions should be based off your expectations.


This isn't some odd concept that is difficult to understand. Let me ask you this, if we fire Orgeron and hire Joe Blow who has never coached football a day in his life, are your predictions for next season going to line up with your expectations for the program?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Welcome back. So it seems we have the same Ole Les Miles crappy offense despite having fired the man. Sux, no? 


It does. I said the other day we went from being an amazing 1970's offense(a good 70's offense would be bad today) to being a horrible 90's offense.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104242 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Him retiring is the only hope for him not to be here next season

Lester, I always appreciate that you at least try to stay somewhat neutral, so I have a question for you related to this. Do you think that Orgeron could even survive firing Ensminger he wanted to or thought it was warranted? IMO, I just don't see how he could come out and admit that he botched the most important hire on his staff 2 years in a row.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:52 pm to
He prob doesn’t have the balls to fire him if it ever becomes warranted. The way he makes a point to say how good of a job SE’s does tells me he is a little insecure with him to begin with. Or at least hears the noise
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:55 pm to
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are your predictions for next season going to line up with your expectations for the program?



Expectations are year to year. And they have certainly changed some what after getting to the point where we had to fire the winningest coach ever.

Basic example: If we return 12 starters my expectations would not be as high if we return 18.

Expectations are year to year based on schedule, personnel, coach retention, etc.

The blanket 10 win shite is so stupid & makes no sense. You start putting numbers out there & it becomes a prediction.

Just stay general. Say your expectations are high. Say you think we should compete for the West every year or play on NYD.

If you want to separate expectations from your “predictions”, stop with the specifics especially regarding what our record should be every year
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:56 pm to
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How old are you again? You sound like you're around 10 years old. I only brought it up to show how hypocritical your post was



Old enough to know the difference in the two posts which apparently you don't have a fricking clue. Cancer is a very real disease that's slowly eating away at me. A general statement that X group of people can eat a bag of aids dicks doesn't single anyone out and is said all the time on this board.

So either you're retarded and really can't tell the difference or you're just a shitty troll that at your age should know acceptable from unacceptable but here you are so desperate for attention that you're here defending the indefensible.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104242 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:56 pm to
I kind of get that feeling as well. I think most anyone that watches the games has some level of concern with the direction of the offense right now. But, I'm just not convinced that another change is the right move unless it's an absolute slam dunk and it's someone that Orgeron is going to let run their offense.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:57 pm to
“ shooting on one of the worst offenses in cfb”

Some people don’t see it that way. Some think coach E’s O is ok and coach O thinks he is doing a “great” job.

How anyone, to this point in time, can see about the 13th Best in the SEC and about 100 in the nation as anything but a failure is a mystery to me.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22098 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:57 pm to
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You are entitled to your opinion.


Well Halle-frickin-lujah!!! Progress!!



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The one that was wrong offseason, so not sure what you’re standing on.



How was I wrong all offseason?

I said this should be a 10-2 team and the schedule wasn't as bad as it was being played up to be. I said coaching would cost us a game it shouldn't.


You were the one touting the depth of the DL and calling me an idiot for saying the depth wasn't all that different than last year. Even your avatar agrees with me now



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Cause last year it was he lost to terrible teams & he couldn’t recruit. What is it this year? 



Still those two

Plus he's struck out on another OC, plus he can't field a decent running game.



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know you aren’t sensible about what is happening along the OL this year. You think we have no talent on either line. What else are you going with?




Holy shite you've filled a dozen pages in this very thread lamenting the lack of talent in the OL. I'm the one saying there is more than enough talent with the right scheme and coaching to not be last in the SEC or close to it in all offensive categories.


As you like to say, you are coming unhinged


And please explain how talented our DL is. I'll forward your reply to O to let him know
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:01 pm to
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kind of get that feeling as well. I think most anyone that watches the games has some level of concern with the direction of the offense right now. But, I'm just not convinced that another change is the right move unless it's an absolute slam dunk and it's someone that Orgeron is going to let run their offense



I think Steve gets another year. If he comes out next fall and stinks it up with all of the returning players he'll have then yes fire him. I don't know why they couldn't bring in somebody right now as an analyst that could step in at any time similar to what nick does at bama.
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