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re: LSU returned 2 linemen with multiple starts and just 3 with any starts- All three got hurt

Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:19 pm to
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This is exactly right and exactly where we are.


You know where else we are? Almost dead last in offense. And these guys haven't been hurt all year.

And some of them played in the Bama game.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:20 pm to
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meaning meeting your expectations


Wrong word...not my expectations, my predictions. That's where the problem comes in.

My expectations for the program are the same as when Miles was here...which are the same expectations that seem to be the reason he was let go. Not some nebulous amount of wins, but something to show for them. so...if 9 and 10 wins seasons were NOT good enough for Les miles, then there is no argument that can be made that they are good enough for the man who replaced him FROM IN HOUSE.

So...while my prediction of 9-3 is in line with what seems likely (or there abouts) my expectation (that we legitimately compete for the SECW and beyond) went, yet again, unmet.

Which brings us to this next point of yours...

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yet the narrative is to burn everything down, instead of constructively criticizing


We DID give constructive criticism, but it did not matter how it was handed down. ANYTHING not positive was deemed detrimental to the program. We have voiced our concerns at EVERY turn, only to be met with resistance.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:20 pm to
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Where was this common sense durng the last regime?



Regarding what?

I was fair with Miles. You really want to argue this?

You thought he should be fired, right?

Ok then. Don’t be mad because I saw the flaws long before you.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78243 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:22 pm to
But j think your missing flaws here.

There are a lot of ways to be bad on offense.

This is just a different way.

Do you think any playcall looked like it surprised Alabama?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:22 pm to
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You're the one that's bring it up and defending your little boyfriend.


How old are you again? You sound like you're around 10 years old. I only brought it up to show how hypocritical your post was.

You say something rude, that's fine, I'm just joking.

Someone else says something that may or may not have been meant to be rude, and that guy's a sorry sonofabitch. He needs to be burned at the stake.

Holy frick.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38047 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:24 pm to
Earl will not admit that we can do better at OC. He has gone as far to say there are better OCs out there. So even though it's what he believes, he will never say it.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:24 pm to
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That being said there's a certain decorum that most people would follow


Agreed. Like I said, I have no idea what he meant...just letting you know that, regardless of however much I think you're wrong about things, it's always just ideas.

It's why I get mad when anyone strawman's one of my arguments, or says I or others said a thing and then refuse to quote them.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
288395 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:25 pm to
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Not some nebulous amount of wins, but something to show for them. so...if 9 and 10 wins seasons were NOT good enough for Les miles, then there is no argument that can be made that they are good enough for the man who replaced him FROM IN HOUSE.


It’s unreal to me that someone who thinks they have it figured out cannot & does not deal in context

You’re expectations with context are your predictions. Again, you’re just copping out like the other guy
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Don’t be mad because I saw the flaws long before you.



So, it’s not possible we are seeing (or more likely acknowledging) flaws in O and this regime before you??

Nah, gotta just be haters and trolls

This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:26 pm to
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We DID give constructive criticism, but it did not matter how it was handed down. ANYTHING not positive was deemed detrimental to the program. We have voiced our concerns at EVERY turn, only to be met with resistance.


It is clear to me that the narrative regarding LSU football now has nothing to do with accomplishments/achievements, but rather with pandering to a loosely defined 'successful season'. With Sabama as our next door neighbor, this will more likely than not result in the program spiraling ever downward as potential LSU recruits head east where winning is expected. We can no longer blame coaching per se, but must now turn our attention to those in charge. That is the provenance of the wormwood.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Ok then. Don’t be mad because I saw the flaws long before 


You think you know football because you saw flaws in Miles?


He was always flawed and an elementary level knowledge of football can tell you that.

There was one problem. He was winning.when he stopped winning at an elite level his flaws were no longer acceptable.

The gaul you have to think you know football because you saw flaws in Miles.

I dont see you listing or constantly calling out O's flaws.
I dont see you constantly shitting on one of the worst offenses in cfb.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:28 pm to
RickDaddy, is that really you?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24089 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:29 pm to
Yep, that was the worry at the beginning of the season.However, the season has gone much better than I expected, so I am satisfied.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:31 pm to
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So, it’s not possible we are seeing (or more likely acknowledging) flaws in O and this regime before you?? 

Nah, gotta just be haters and tro


Not only that he touting seeing flaws in the most accomplished coach in lsu history and sitting back thinking," see i told you he sucked" after that coach built one of the most accomplished resumes in sec history.

Wow you cant make this shite up.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288395 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Earl will not admit that we can do better at OC


What the frick do you think this means?


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He has gone as far to say there are better OCs out there



You act like you’re asking some hard hitting question & like I’ve mever told it how it is. frickin chump
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38047 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:33 pm to
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the season has gone much better than I expected, so I am satisfied.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:33 pm to
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RickDaddy, is that really you?


Free at last
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:33 pm to
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You’re expectations with context are your predictions.


You're clearly too smart to not understand this, so it's clear you're just being obtuse. So...I won't bother explaining the obvious difference between one's expectations for what will happen with the way things are versus what they think ought to happen if things were better.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38047 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:34 pm to
So you don't think we can do better at OC?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288395 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:35 pm to
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dont see you listing or constantly calling out O's flaws.
I dont see you constantly shitting on one of the worst offenses in cfb.


I have called out every single one of coach O’s flaws along the way. you’re too emotional to comprehend anything

The offenses main problem has been the OL shuffling, WR drops & substituions, & lack of talent at RB. It needs to get better. Better talent & better coaching. The play calling has not been bad. If I thought it was bad I wouldn’t be afraid to say it.
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