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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”

Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104319 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:56 pm to
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I work in management for a pretty large company with an HR department
In healthcare right?

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THe first step is to speak with the accused person to get their side of the story.
Do you bring in Joint Commission, the CDC, or OSHA while speaking with your fricking employee?


I am in internal audit for a large healthcare company, and we would never bring in the investigating body before speaking to our employee
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9491 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:59 pm to
If you gave me a suspension because I invoked my attorney's advice regarding how my discussion with you could potentially harm me in some sort of federal case that I was called to witness in, and it came to light later that I had done nothing wrong, I'd be suing the hell out of your company for any damages I could think up and justify even remotely.

Most folks don't want to go through that hassle, and on top of that, you don't have to worry about the media frying you in public when you make those decisions. Must be a nice situation to be in when you can suspend someone based on accusations.

I'm going to assume that none of those people you suspended (shel or EA6B) had a pending federal trial that they were called to witness in and that their comments as your employees had zero potential to deal them harm.

Your "I'm experienced because I have suspended people" schtick is only admissible if you have actually been in this position before.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Stop making up my viewpoints, you obnoxious idiot.
This is funny
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
423 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Do you bring in Joint Commission, the CDC, or OSHA while speaking with your fricking employee?


I am in internal audit for a large healthcare company, and we would never bring in the investigating body before speaking to our employee


LOL @ insinuating the NCAA works like a business and near governmental regulators. The NCAA has every right to petition to be there. We could refuse, but anything that gets said in such a meeting will likely be admissible as evidence in the trial. Hence the reason Wade doesn't want to speak "on the record" until after the trial. The only thing that makes this bad from the admin side is if we really are asking the NCAA to be hardasses on Wade as opposed to them following what's happening and asking to be involved.

Wade was caught on a wiretap discussing multiple offers to a recruit that he also likely named in the discussions with a guy he claims to have no relationship with. Given the stupidity of Wade I'm not sure the University had any choice to call the meeting or rebuff the NCAA's request to be present. I don't want the NCAA sniffing around our entire athletics program just to make an example out of us over all of this. Let that be Arizona or some other team.

LINK
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:08 pm to
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I'm going to assume that none of those people you suspended (shel or EA6B) had a pending federal trial that they were called to witness in and that their comments as your employees had zero potential to deal them harm.


I agree that Wade should listen to his lawyer, and not talk to LSU, but I also agree with LSU suspending him. It is their job to protect the University until the situation is sorted out. The administration has no obligation to accommodate Wade regardless of what he is involved in.
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
423 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I agree that Wade should listen to his lawyer, and not talk to LSU, but I also agree with LSU suspending him. It is their job to protect the University until the situation is sorted out. The administration has no obligation to accommodate Wade regardless of what he is involved in.


frickING. THIS.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I agree that Wade should listen to his lawyer, and not talk to LSU, but I also agree with LSU suspending him.


Yep. I don't know why some people are having such a hard time accepting it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104319 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:11 pm to
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LOL @ insinuating the NCAA works like a business and near governmental regulators.
I didnt

I am loling at shel trying to compare his job to this
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:14 pm to
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I read shite like this and have no idea where some of y'all are coming from.


Because as of now, they don’t have enough evidence to start an investigation. THAT’S WHAT THEY ARE HOPING TO FIND NOW AND LSU IS JUST TRYING TO HAND IT TO THEM.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Ross just said LSU will not have a meeting without the NCAA present.....fricking ridiculous game over


Because they are trying to hang Wade out to dry. Wade is better than the current state of LSU athletics.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:16 pm to
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I am in internal audit for a large healthcare company, and we would never bring in the investigating body before speaking to our employee


Same here. Pride is absolutely correct.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19159 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:18 pm to
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Circumstantial evidence is circumstantial.
yes, and circumstantial evidence is enough to convict (although Wade isn't charged with a crime) and it's certainly enough for an employer to make decisions.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:19 pm to
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what does jumping to a decision do for anyone involved? that would be gravely irresponsible



Then why is he suspended? If there is no evidence of wrong doing, what well ran program would suspend their winning head coach on “suspicion”? You think Bama would suspend Saban because some media article came out as “suspected him of cheating”? No fricking way would they suspend him. Why? Because their athletic department is actually run by competent people.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:19 pm to
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agree that Wade should listen to his lawyer, and not talk to LSU, but I also agree with LSU suspending him. It is their job to protect the University until the situation is sorted out. The administration has no obligation to accommodate Wade regardless of what he is involved in.


A rare voice of reason on this board
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9491 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:19 pm to
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I agree that Wade should listen to his lawyer, and not talk to LSU, but I also agree with LSU suspending him. It is their job to protect the University until the situation is sorted out. The administration has no obligation to accommodate Wade regardless of what he is involved in.


I agree. The question is not the existence of any obligation, the question is "What could LSU have done differently to avoid extreme public scrutiny and protect their interests, both as a university and a money-making athletic program".

My whole argument here is that the NCAA has no real authoritative power in this situation, and thus cannot leverage any action against Wade from their current position. ESPECIALLY since they have stated they will take no action until the trial is concluded.

LSU should have acknowledged the situation, publicly detail that Wade took advice from his counsel (which we all agree he is entitled to do), and say that further action will be taken if necessary as FACTS develop.

The university should not be in the business of taking action on simple accusations without proof.

Should they investigate? Yes. However, what they should not do is ivite public scruitny of a higher severity than what would have come by doing the above, and thus alienate their fanbase and cost themselves both money AND public shame in their dealings.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:20 pm to
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It's not LSU's fault that Wade has projected guilt at every step.


How? He doesn’t have to prove his innocence.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92571 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:20 pm to
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Why is it that the LSU administration is actually making us look guilty?


This is an inside job. F King and Alleva know they're going down. They're taking everyone out with them.

fricking sad to hire folks you wouldn't trust to park your car to run your university and athletic department for millions of dollars a year.

fricking sad...
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30582 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:21 pm to
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It is their job to protect the University until the situation is sorted out.
but they haven't protected anything. They've made the situation worse. Suspending Wade and Smart didn't "protect" LSU from anything.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Right, like all the coaches involved in this that were canned before him. and Sean Miller who will be.


See I knew you didn’t know jack frick about this issue.

The evidence against those that have been fired versus the evidence against Wade is not even in the same country.

Sit cho bitch arse back the frick down.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:22 pm to
He's a schill for Alleva and F'king FWIW.

Several posters in this thread are.

Your AD is deploying trolls to a message board to justify firing Wade instead of swallowing his ego and reinstating him.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 1:25 pm
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