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re: LSU responds to Wade: “Will and his folks ... not denied any wrongdoing.”

Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5547 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
They can't compel their employee to give testimony against his own interest and against the interests of a court of law. Have you all gone retarded?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
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So, you're saying LSU should do nothing and allow him to refuse to meet with his superiors and let the criminal due process play out?


No, I'm not.

quote:

People don't actually believe that is should be done, right?


I don't know. I can only speak for myself.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129142 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Or have they suspended a guy until more facts come out because the guy refuses to speak with them about it?

Uh, Wade’s attorneys said that he couldn’t say anything.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
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So, you're saying LSU should do nothing and allow him to refuse to meet with his superiors and let the criminal due process play out?


Can somebody tell me why the LSU admin will not allow CWW's lawyer to be present so that he can answer one simple question?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Emotion is controlling the ideas right now.

Some of these ideas are nuts.


The idea that Shel just made up?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Nah
Ok, good talks
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:26 pm to
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LSU is dumb as frick for cooperating with the NCAA.


I read shite like this and have no idea where some of y'all are coming from.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5547 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:26 pm to
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I can get fired/suspended from my job for a million different things that are not against the law, insubordination being one of them, which is what Wade has done here.


Or, they can choose NOT to do that.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:26 pm to
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i don't get why he's not fired, there is a less than 0% chance he ever coaches here again. no reason to string this along.


If they are going to fire him, they want to do it with minimal financial impact to the university, it could take months for their lawyers to review and approve everything.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:26 pm to
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Emotion is controlling the ideas right now.

Some of these ideas are nuts.
It's batshit insane and if any of these dudes are a business owner or a boss, they would have fired any employee long ago who has been accused of shite that can take you and your business down AND that employee refuses to meet with you.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9491 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Do you work or are you a boss in some capacity?


Someone in your company is accused of doing some really, really bad shite. You, or the boss, tells that person they need to meet with him. That person says no thanks, I won't meet with you.

What's gonna happen to that person?


Also not a hard concept.

You are a shitty boss if you fire without factual cause in a sitution where zero facts have come to light.

To answer your question, however, if you are that hard up that you liken following the advice of their personal counsel in a federal investigation to avoid potential perjury to insubordination, then you fire the guy and take the PR hit, or you allow things to play out with FACTS and make an intelligent decision rather than a CYA decision.

IF he is guilty, he gets what he deserved in the end with the latter, and you've done your due dilligence as a boss/institution.

If you fire him up front, then you eliminate all concern with yourself as an institution and face a potential wrongful termination lawsuit.

Suspension isa middle ground that only gains bad attention and publicity, and potentially makes you less suitable to potential employees in the future due to inept management.

You guys really have no clue, do you?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:27 pm to
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No, I'm not.

So LSU asking to meet with Wade to discuss allegations is NOT due process to you?

Yea, ok.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:28 pm to
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You are a shitty boss if you fire without factual cause


No one is fired.

quote:

Suspension isa middle ground that only gains bad attention and publicity, and potentially makes you less suitable to potential employees in the future due to inept management.


Suspension or administrative leave is normal.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Well, no matter what happens with the FBI case or NCAA, Will Wade is not going to be LSU's coach. No way he comes back to work for this administration if he is cleared.

If that happens then we should all be done too until that entire administration is gone. They blatantly admitted they don’t care about winning, so why the frick should any of us care or waste any more of our money?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:28 pm to
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The idea that Shel just made up?
lol
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:29 pm to
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So LSU asking to meet with Wade to discuss allegations is NOT due process to you?

Yea, ok.


Why do you keep putting words into my mouth?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:29 pm to
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Or, they can choose NOT to do that.
yes they can, and doing that 100% exposes them to get in trouble themselves, so it would be quite stupid for them to do that, again, logically and rationally speaking.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117807 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:30 pm to
Is there any possible way where this ends up with Alleva getting fired and Wade continues to be our coach?

I keep posting this, but what pisses me off is how all of this unfolded. The article yahoo released wasn't anything much different than what was addressed in October.

And LSU isn't the only university in which the head BB coach has been subpoenaed. And the fact that there is recordings of Kansas assistant coach discussing what Zion Williamson was requesting.. And the fact that he ended up not even going to Kansas (which should raise the question as to what did Duke offer him).

And I hate thinking like this because I am not a conspiracy theorist, but to some degree I think LSU has been targeted and I mentioned before my reasons.

1. The timing in which the article by yahoo came out.

2. Each time this basketball team has gotten into trouble (1998 and currently), Roy Williams seems to be indirectly involved.

In 1998 Lester Earl admits he was paid (then a few years ago admitted he was forced by the NCAA to provide them with something and that he lied to them because if he gave them something he would be safe) and ended up transferring to Kansas, where Roy Williams was coaching.

Now this situation involves Jovante Smart, who was either going to commit to LSU or UNC. He picked LSU, and not the Roy Williams coached UNC team.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
16033 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:30 pm to
At what point does Wade say screw it and talk to the NCAA without LSU present? Assuming they give him a list of questions.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:30 pm to
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If they are going to fire him, they want to do it with minimal financial impact to the university, it could take months for their lawyers to review and approve everything.

True, that does make sense.
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