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re: LSU ranked last in the SEC, and 122nd in the nation for returning production next year

Posted on 2/1/18 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203360 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 3:50 pm to
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Along with 9 other of Miles teams, 2014 scored more ppg than the 2017 LSU team which is returning only half it's production in 2018. Comforting.



Miles Miles Miles....


Geez.. He is long gone... Either support the team or find another team to root for....
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 3:57 pm to
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What about a four loss team?

Yea, I don't know what I was thinking. I'm blaming the flu that is destroying me today.

The point I was trying to make is that returning starters, for a team that wasn't top 20 material is only a positive if those starters have the potential to improve and improve greatly.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 3:58 pm to
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The point I was trying to make is that returning starters, for a team that wasn't top 20 material is only a positive if those starters have the potential to improve and improve greatly.
Not exactly.

If they were the starter, that either means the backup was not as good, or your coach cant see talent and started the worse player....
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:14 pm to
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If they were the starter, that either means the backup was not as good, or your coach cant see talent and started the worse player.

But none of that really matters. Returning starters has long be a staple of college football discussions and I don't think many people take the time to discern the pros and cons of the subject. Its just one of those talking points that almost always gets accepted as being beneficial. Took listening to a debate between a Mississippi State fan and an Ole Miss fan for this to resonate.

Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14456 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:18 pm to
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I am just pointing out by production, we will have the most inexperienced team in the entire conference next year That is simply a fact

I agree. If posters want to express concerns about what the incoming OC or HC will do to put the current roster in a position to succeed, fine. That doesn't change the fact that we are replacing our starting QB, 2 top RBs, 2 top WRs and 2 starting OL. If you want to argue the incoming QB will be better great. That still doesn't change the above truth or that there will be a learning period.

I get it. People hate the HC. I'm not a fan either. Does that negate any discussion regarding the team roster, schedule or player development?
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:25 pm to
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thought the argument was on how young this team was?

I think you are confusing production with youth. No question that LSU played tons of freshman. Hopefully they produce next year.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:41 pm to
this is fantastic news for orgeron as he already has his excuse for going 7-5 built in.

just wait until next year, yall!
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Does that negate any discussion regarding the team roster, schedule or player development?


no but reading some of the posts in here and on this website since the offseason started, you would think 1) this is the first time LSU has ever dealt with offseason attrition 2) this is a problem unique solely to LSU, as if other P5 schools do not have to replace outgoing players.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10095 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Miles Miles Miles....
Totally in line with the post about 2014.
Miles was supposed to be upgraded (lol) for the good of LSU, but there's been a steady deterioration since 3 loss 2015, and we need to keep an eye on that gauge.
I haven't seen one improvement, just excuses and national proclamations of impending doom as in OP.
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Either support the team or find another team to root for....
I root for whom I please, and you have taught me well that it doesn't have to be for the head coach, ya damn hypocrite.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203360 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:55 pm to
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I root for whom I please, and you have taught me well that it doesn't have to be for the head coach, ya damn hypocrite.



What a dipshit....................

Send me your address so I can send you that Miami U t-shirt to wear for the 1st game next year.............
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10095 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 5:39 pm to
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Send me your address so I can send you that Miami U t-shirt to wear for the 1st game next year.....
Bitch I prolly got every LSU merch ever offered.
I even bought an Air Canada shirt last year, but think I'll pass on the ugly arse shirts you wear.

Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24458 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 5:48 pm to
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quote:
Not many versus those below. LSU Players in the 2014 NFL Draft


Damn - the Fins got a steal at 63, didn't they?

And, man, that Les Miles could frickin' recruit, yo.


Who was in charge of recruiting in 2015?

All I want to see are the excuses so i bookmarked this for November this year...
ANYTHING less than 9 wins with 1 cupcake cancelled OR 10 Wins,, this O experiment should end.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203360 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 5:49 pm to
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Bitch I prolly got every LSU merch ever offered


Nothing wrong wit that.. My closet has nohing but LSU gear... But yet since O is the coach and you bash him at anytime you can I thought you would want A U shirt because you already want him Fired and I am sure wearing an LSU shirt won't make A difference in who you are cheering for the 1st game next year...........
Posted by lovinLSU
lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
13882 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 7:59 pm to
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We will find out if SE is the answer. Oh wait the rant has spoken LSU will suck.
...how many Tiger Rant suicides are you predicting if LSU doesn’t win the NC next year?.....
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:44 am to
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Sure do.
Along with 9 other of Miles teams, 2014 scored more ppg than the 2017 LSU team which is returning only half it's production in 2018.
Comforting.


We just lost our two year starting QB, top 3 pass catchers and top 3 rushers, along with 2 starting OL.

In 2013 we were averaging 35.8 ppg and the 2014 team scored 27.6 ppg. We lost two year starting QB, our top 3 pass catchers including 4 of 5 top 5, two of our top 3 rushers, and Hill had over twice as many carries, yards, and TDs than any other runner. Not to mention a new OL coach teaching a new scheme.

Went from 10-3 in 2013 to 8-5 in 2014.

Like I said in a previous thread, the only thing I'm optimistic about is Aranda and his defense.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 6:45 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27888 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:05 am to
I believe I heard Connelly mention on his podcast that Giles’ Texas Tech numbers are included in our offensive total, and without it we may have been dead last.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:16 am to
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without it we may have been dead last.

Then we can only go UP! All joking aside, are there any data points that show what the ranking is in terms of production lost and if it translates into lack of or increased production the following year?

In other words,I wonder if playing freshmen with no real production in year one, pays benefits in year two? After all, isn't that why many thought Brennan should get more meaningful snaps last season?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:24 am to
Giles and Fehoko have played a lot of college football. If you brought their stats in it would be a bit better.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27888 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:18 am to
They’re included.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:20 am to
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We'll make up for lack of returning production with great coaching


Not much of a tiger fan. We are loaded for 2018. Our defense will be nastier, and our offense greatly improved IF we can get decent QB play. Ensminger is a major upgrade to a deficient Canada.
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