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LSU QB Issues
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:37 am
Until LSU develops it's own QB's and opens up its offense for all to see, then and only then will QB's look at coming here. Stop with all the Jimbo Fisher's QB development talk. Jamarcus Russell, EJ Manuel, and Jameis Winston have yet to prove he's a future NFL QB guru. It's time to let McMillian, Francois, and Brennan play it out and learn on the field. Stop with the transfer talk, bringing in Burrows does nothing to help in recruiting QB's, and then the three we have just leave, and we are back to square one again. Brennan is a Sophomore, Narcisse a Freshman, and McMillan is a Jr. Start Brennan or Narcisse and let them develop by playing on the field.
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:39 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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Jamarcus Russell, EJ Manuel, and Jameis Winston have yet to prove he's a future NFL QB guru.
2 #1 picks on that list.
ETA: Manuel and Ponder where both mid #1's. Maybe those guys didn't pan out, but Jimbo has more qbs drafted in the first round in the last 10 years then lsu has drafted probably ever. A kid could def say jimbo can make a #1 and I'll do better than those guys.
I mean you guys could look this stuff up before you look dumb.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:39 am to LSUTIGERS2018
I agree with the first few sentences but couldn’t disagree more with the end. I’m extremely tired of seeing LSU send out freshmen and sophomore QB’s who aren’t ready and letting their confidence get burned and ruining their careers.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:43 am to lsu1919
First two are busts, and the last one is becoming one.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:43 am to LSUTIGERS2018
No one on this board really cares what a player does when they leave LSU other than getting drafted. Clearly, we just want the QB to perform at LSU on the highest level. That will get them drafted. What they do beyond that is just something to sell recruits.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:45 am to LSUgrad08112
But why aren't they ready? Why haven't they been developed quickly? Look at the benchmarks. Hurts was a true freshman. Fromm was a true freshman.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:46 am to LSUgrad08112
That's because they never got any game action to develop their skills, adjust to pace of the game, etc. No longer can a team sign a highly prized recruit and sit him for 2-3 years, and expect miracles when thrown to the wolves with SEC defenses.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:47 am to LSUTIGERS2018
Most of this is either stupid or flat out wrong.
0/10. Would not read again
0/10. Would not read again
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:50 am to LSUTIGERS2018
Why does NFL success matter? I’ll take Jamarcus Russell in college over Tom Brady in college.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:52 am to LSUTIGERS2018
Who gives a shite if they are a bust in the NFL. They were all developed and played well in college which is the whole point.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:52 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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Stop with all the Jimbo Fisher's QB development talk. Jamarcus Russell, EJ Manuel, and Jameis Winston have yet to prove he's a future NFL QB guru.
It's not Jimbo's fault they weren't superstars in the NFL. If they weren't talented enough then Jimbo is really good at getting the most out of his qb's. If they were talented enough then that would be on the NFL coaches they were under, not Jimbo.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:56 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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No longer can a team sign a highly prized recruit and sit him for 2-3 years, and expect miracles when thrown to the wolves with SEC defenses
So it’s wrong to throw a junior with no experience to the wolves but it’s somehow a good thing to throw an 18 year old freshman with much less knowledge of the playbook, practice time, physical development, etc. to the wolves against SEC competition?
Makes sense. There’s a happy medium between starting a freshman and not letting them get any experience until they’re a junior.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:57 am to LSUTIGERS2018
You haven’t been around a lot of QBs nationally have you? It shows! You have no idea of what you speak. Any one of our QBs could start at any number of major programs TODAY, given the right coaching leadership and a defined offensive system that each could flourish in. Why is it when LSU gets two highly Nationally ranked QBs everyone thinks they suck if they’re not a Prescott or Brady before their Sophomore year? Yet at other programs the QBs are given a year or two to develop under the great tooliage of the HC, OC and QB coach. Wait never mind...
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:57 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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LSUTIGERS2018
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How many accounts do you have now, Myles?
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:58 am to jgriffith
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Hurts was a true freshman. Fromm was a true freshman
Brennan is 150 pounds soaking wet. Narcisse missed 2 years of high school football due to injury. McMillan wasn’t nearly as talented as Fromm or Hurts. Do you honestly believe that any of our QB’s would be killing it if we started them as freshmen, even with competent coaching?
Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:01 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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hat's because they never got any game action to develop their skills, adjust to pace of the game, etc. No longer can a team sign a highly prized recruit and sit him for 2-3 years, and expect miracles when thrown to the wolves with SEC defenses.
But the two true freshmen (fromm and hurts/Tua) were thrown to wolves w/o any college game experience. So which is it? Maybe the qb either has it or doesn’t.
I don’t think game experience has anything to do with it. J. Winston had none when he started his r.s. Freshmen season.
If you were able to develop/coach great/talented qbs then you wouldn’t have Ryan leaf, J Russell, D Carr, Akili Smith flops at the nfl level while Brady, Werner, Farve etc are hall of Famers. They either have it or they don’t.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:03 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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Stop with all the Jimbo Fisher's QB development talk. Jamarcus Russell, EJ Manuel, and Jameis Winston have yet to prove he's a future NFL QB guru.
Holy crap this is a dumb statement. How a QB does in the pros means nothing to how Jimbo develops QBs in college. He is able to take guys who dont pan out in the pros and make them look good and get the best out of them to get them drafted in the first round. He knows how to coach and develop COLLEGE QBs. How they do when they move on is no longer on him, that's on the coaches and themselves once they get drafted. Our offense save for Mettenberger has not been able to develop even a solid starter in college. Etling had the best since mettenberger and he still left a lot of throws on the field. Damn c'mon man
Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:05 am to LSUTIGERS2018
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:05 am to LSUgrad08112
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Brennan is 150 pounds soaking wet. Narcisse missed 2 years of high school football due to injury. McMillan wasn’t nearly as talented as Fromm or Hurts. Do you honestly believe that any of our QB’s would be killing it if we started them as freshmen, even with competent coaching?
may part of the problem starts with "whom we recruit"
Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:07 am to LSUTIGERS2018
quote:who cares if they don't pan out in the NFL. This is the college game, and Jimbo has had great success with QBs.
First two are busts, and the last one is becoming one.
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