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re: LSU Paths to SEC game simplified

Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:12 pm to
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come on, man. We don't deserve to be in the SEC CG. We'd get crushed.


Seems like I heard this before the 2001 SECCG against #1 Tennessee.

Didn’t work out well for the Vols. National title and rose bowl dreams disappeared on the field that day for the team in Orange

I don’t even know what “deserve” means. If we finish 1 or 2 in SEC standings after tiebreakers we absolutely deserve to be in the game by definition.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by tonydtiger
Central Mississippi
Member since Oct 2007
2528 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:16 pm to
When will you people learn, this is a below mediocre football team. You are quick to forget the last 6 quarters of football played by this team.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21752 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:22 pm to
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It'll be interesting. I'd love to see it.

I assume in the first scenario we'd probably play Bama??

First scenario
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Win out, Tenn Loses to UGA (Nico out), Arkansas beats Texas or Mizzou (Brady Cook out for the year supposedly. It is @Arkansas)
Arkansas is at Missouri to end the season. I didn't know Cook is out, that becomes very possible. Also Arkansas views Texas as a rivalry and plays them tough.

In that scenario, we look at playing the winner of Texas/A&M, if Ark beats Mizzou (and Texas beats Arkansas).

If we play Texas, I'm actually kinda hopeful. Neither Ewers or Manning are dual threats, and we're putting solid pressure on pocket passers.
Posted by snackpack
Member since Dec 2005
3043 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:23 pm to
Who really knows especially if we look good the next 3 weeks - no one this season is also Georgia 2022 in the sec
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21752 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:26 pm to
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When will you people learn, this is a below mediocre football team. You are quick to forget the last 6 quarters of football played by this team.

6 quarters against a good A&M on the road (quite possibly the best home field advantage), in a game we initially dominated. And then a game against Alabama, who is either #1 or #2 in amount of talent on the roster.

Alabama can beat the frick out of a lot of teams, and it paired with matching up poorly against Milroe.

When will YOU people learn that 1-2 games don't make a season?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19124 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:26 pm to
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I don’t even know what “deserve” means.
I meant we're not good enough to be in the SECCG. Lost to a bad USC team. Got shelled by A&M and utterly destroyed by Bama.

Could've/should've lost to USCe. Beat Ole Miss (great win) but took magic on a 4th down to make it happen.

If you honestly think LSU is one of the top 2 teams in the SEC, you're flat-out delusional.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12758 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:35 pm to
LSU win out

Every Favored sec team wins their game

LSU vs AM in SEC championship.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54238 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:46 pm to
Lol

LSU won’t win out. We can’t scheme to stop a mobile QB

You really want BK to get us humiliated in Atlanta again? I don’t.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45433 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:53 pm to
The idea of LSU playing for the SEC championship after everything we've been through this year is insane. If that happens, holy moly
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
964 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:54 pm to
Of all of these conditions, the one I am least confident in is that we will win out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103927 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:56 pm to
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That would be nuts for LSU to go in over Bama.
Its exactly what bama would want
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103927 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:13 pm to
I think Arky as an outside chance vs Texas
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32020 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:39 pm to
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I meant we're not good enough to be in the SECCG. Lost to a bad USC team. Got shelled by A&M and utterly destroyed by Bama.

Could've/should've lost to USCe. Beat Ole Miss (great win) but took magic on a 4th down to make it happen.

If you honestly think LSU is one of the top 2 teams in the SEC, you're flat-out delusional.


Every team in the conference has at least one conference loss. Only three of sixteen have fewer than two conference losses. Tenn is an underdog this weekend. If they lose that leaves only two SEC teams with one conference loss (Texas and Texas A&M). Those two will play, which means in that scenario, AT BEST, only one team will finish the season with only one conf. loss.

So how would LSU be any "less deserving" than any of the other 2-loss teams? The would have beaten Vanderbilt...who beat Alabama. They would have beaten South Carolina on the road...who blew out A&M. They would have blown out Arkansas....who beat Tennessee. They would have beaten Ole Miss. Placement in the SEC Championship game is not subjective. There is an objective criteria which places the two teams in the game. If LSU were to get there they would be every bit as "deserving" as any of the other 2-loss teams they would be tied with.

No one (at least for now) is saying LSU is deserving of an at-large spot in the CFP because that is subjective. Getting to the SECCG isn't.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32020 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:52 pm to
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I think Arky as an outside chance vs Texas


Maybe, but I'm not there yet.

I think a sneaky one could be Auburn beating A&M. No, Auburn isn't a good team. But they would be playing at home. JHS is one of the more underrated environments in the SEC. For their part A&M hasn't had to play many true road games this year. The beat Florida early in the season. Struggled to some degree against Miss. St. and ran into a buzzsaw in South Carolina. Would I bet my house on Auburn to win that game? Of course not. Their offense is terrible. But I watched an Auburn team get blown out by New Mexico St. last season then turn around the next week and take Alabama to the brink, requiring Alabama to convert a miraculous 4th down to win.

If Auburn were to win that game that would leave LSU only needing A&M to beat Texas. Sounds odd considering A&M would have lost to Auburn. But that game will be in College Station and will EASILY be the most hostile environment Texas will have played in all season...maybe in over a decade considering A&M will be getting them at home for the first time in 13 years!
Posted by LSUtigerfan26
Member since Aug 2018
183 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:02 pm to
I would love to see the math on our odds. It feels like if we win out we would have to have around a 50% chance of getting in with all the different scenarios
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin
Member since Nov 2018
12110 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:14 pm to
the least likely scenario out of all of this is us winning out so there’s that
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
2170 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:19 pm to
Bama is not losing. The end.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:21 pm to
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Win out, Tenn Loses to UGA (Nico out), Arkansas beats Mizzou (Brady Cook out for the year supposedly. It is @Arkansas)
Most likely path.

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm still hopeful they can make the SECCG and maybe win it. Anything is possible.

Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
1685 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:08 pm to
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Bama is not losing. The end.


They don’t have to so gfy!
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26892 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:24 pm to
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If you honestly think LSU is one of the top 2 teams in the SEC, you're flat-out delusional.


We’re talking about the exact scenario that puts lsu as one of the Top2 teams in the league.

No one said we are currently one of the top 2 teams in the league. There’s an entire month of football left to play. 25% of the regular season.

And yes, if we finish 1 or 2 in the league, we are indeed 1 or 2 in the league. As a fact, by definition.

Did you just randomly reply to a hypothetical SECCG scenario thread without knowing the context of the thread? This isn’t a current Week11 SEC power rankings thread.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 7:30 pm
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