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re: LSU Offense: 2nd Half Drive Chart
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:50 am to GFunk
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:50 am to GFunk
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But Ensminger’s second half performance was unacceptable.
2018 vs 2017
More points per game
Almost as many yards per game
No feature RB
First year starter at QB
Six games, six different OL combinations
Much more difficult SOS
Love the Rant
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:51 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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Prior to this game, had we run 5 screen plays in a single game? If not, the Swamp isn't a good place to try them out.
I’m dumbfounded people think like this
They worked for the most part. Jefferson got 7 & 10 yards on first down twice. Moreau went for 16 on a TE screen,
We’ve ran more screens to the RB thru 5 games that Miles ran in 12 years. The notion that this is some risky play that can’t be ran in the swamp is dumb
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:55 am to CP3forMVP
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This Aranda being outcoached these is the biggest line of bs coming out of this weekend. Aranda got the better of Mullen some, and vice versa. Neither really outcoached the other.
Floridas offense is worse than ours...and Aranda got owned...let that sink in.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:57 am to tigerfoot
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Value? What is a bottom ranked offense going for nowadays? More than 800k?
you realize UF has a worse offense than we do right? But hey Aranda is doing a great job
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:59 am to I20goon
I am a true LSU fan but we got our arse handed to us Saturday! Both of our lines were awful. We start every game like a house on fire & then the 2nd. half quit! I was really disappointed by our defense. I knew it would be average on offense this year but LSU always has a great defense! No pass rush!!! Ga will beat us 20 points if we don't make some adjustments this week! WEhen did we forget how to tackle >???
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:59 am to Topwater Trout
See this where people go off the rails. Aranda has an established history of real success at three schools, including here. One can look at a game wher we allowed less than 400 yards and our offense had two bad turnovers as pretty meh. I will agree Aranda had a meh game, it is the exception.
This makes 5 of 6 meh games from our offense.
This makes 5 of 6 meh games from our offense.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
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We attempted 5 different screen plays in the 2nd half. Don’t let your narrative get confused with the facts.
Depending on the timing and the execution this is really not instructional as to whether they were effective playcalls. You can't just throw your hands up and say, "You would have loved the plays we had...if we had just had a chance to run them."
Were they called based on checks where we read blitz? Were they to the correct side of the fire call from the Defense? Did our coaches put in the right blocking schemes and coaching the correct technique on how to be successful with how UF has defended those playcalls all year so far?
There's so much context left out of your, "Well we called the plays, what more do you want," narrative that it's easy to tell you are simply looking for blanket generalizations to put the onus on the players.
The issue here is that Grantham & Mullen were superior to their counterparts on the opposite sideline Saturday. The other issue is that-in a vacuum-LSU appears to call plays in a manner that's designed to get kids the football and not so much designed to create a flow or setting up constraints off formation and personnel.
It's there earlier in this thread. Myself and others feel the contrived way we force feed Giles outside of the flow and feel of the game on offense. We just stop, call his number and then do something else. It's there with the strange disconnect between the head coach's effusive praise and media commentary about how Brossette has earned the starting role and is clearly our best back, yet gets pulled mysteriously and has to essentially split carries with a kid who just wasn't getting the job done on this day (not a sleight to CEH. Just a fact).
This is just one man's opinion, but it's one that I see shared on various fronts that I'm just sort've piecing together now that we've seen approximately a half season's worth of performances out of the offense.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:20 pm to The First Cut
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The First Cut
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2018 vs 2017
I'm thinking this may not turn out the way that you want it to.
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More points per game
Okay. The fact that our Kicker has been a National and SEC Player of the week multiple times would lead me to believe we have upgraded a position crucial to scoring more points. I'll also say that SLU, La Tech & Ole Miss are very poor defensive clubs. Hail Mary's at halftime, defensive TD's and the like have helped our statistics in 2018 also. That's not entirely dispositive because that very well may have impacted some scores last year as well.
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Almost as many yards per game
So in other words, we were better at this last year? Was the "almost," supposed to somehow infer we were better even though we actually aren't? Literally 20 yards better last year than this year, which averages out to approximately 2 or so more 1st downs a game.
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No feature RB
Yet we are running for 17+ more yards per game compared to last year so far.
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First year starter at QB
Who is undeniably a huge upgrade from Etling.
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Six games, six different OL combinations
Absolutely agree with you here. We've had a ton of attrition here. Yet we started two 18 year olds last year at critical spots, including LT. I'm not saying this is a push in comparison, but Grimes' unit dealt with holes last year also.
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Much more difficult SOS
Totally subjective. Miami almost lost to a hapless, inept FSU this past weekend, and Auburn looked like a total pretender versus State Saturday Night. Those two alleged signature wins look a little shakier after UF out-physicaled us a week after winning over State who just woodshedded Auburn Saturday.
I love the way most of your, "points," are actually not even in your favor, and yet you're laughing. What do they say is bliss, again? Ignorance?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:34 pm to GFunk
He’s related to Ensminger. He’s a fn clown. He was nowhere to be found when speedy or slackster posted how most all stats this year are worse than last years other than PPG and this season is not done with yet so that could drop. NEED TO find and update all those stats and metrics. As well as offensive rankings sec and nationally.
this was a few weeks back but we need these updated SPEEDY OR SLACKSTER!
2018 #s v 2017 #s
5.08 v 6.19 - yards/play
333.7 v 411.1 - yards/game
3.91 v 4.79 - rushing yards/att
153.7 v 207.6 - rushing yards/game
6.8 v 8.8 - passing yards/att
180.0 v 203.5 - passing yards/game
115.5 v 149.8 - passer rating
31.9% v 41.4% - 3rd down conversions
as far as the PPG, taking away the 7 the D scored against miami as that was NOT offense
E is at 30.1 PPG
last year was 27.2
30 or more should always be goal but not when you blew E all last year like the first cut did saying how great E was and is and how bad canada was E should be blowing those numbers out the water with 35 a game. he is not doing that.
E has a better Qb and better receivers than we had last year like G funk stated.
this was a few weeks back but we need these updated SPEEDY OR SLACKSTER!
2018 #s v 2017 #s
5.08 v 6.19 - yards/play
333.7 v 411.1 - yards/game
3.91 v 4.79 - rushing yards/att
153.7 v 207.6 - rushing yards/game
6.8 v 8.8 - passing yards/att
180.0 v 203.5 - passing yards/game
115.5 v 149.8 - passer rating
31.9% v 41.4% - 3rd down conversions
as far as the PPG, taking away the 7 the D scored against miami as that was NOT offense
E is at 30.1 PPG
last year was 27.2
30 or more should always be goal but not when you blew E all last year like the first cut did saying how great E was and is and how bad canada was E should be blowing those numbers out the water with 35 a game. he is not doing that.
E has a better Qb and better receivers than we had last year like G funk stated.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:36 pm to GFunk
Exactly. The screens did not work as they should. Either bad timing or reads or checks. how should they work against blitzes?
see TJ yeldon in 2012 against us or go back and watch pierre thomas in 2009 with saints. big yards! scores!
see TJ yeldon in 2012 against us or go back and watch pierre thomas in 2009 with saints. big yards! scores!
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:38 pm to GFunk
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There's so much context left out of your, "Well we called the plays, what more do you want," narrative that it's easy to tell you are simply looking for blanket generalizations to put the onus on the players.
I responded to a statement saying we dish run any screen plays, when we did. That response doesn’t warrant context. Though I agree with your general premise, your rant does not apply to this conversation.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:40 pm to Topwater Trout
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and Aranda got owned.
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Topwater Trout
I see you're still on your idiot crusade. Awesome.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:14 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
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I responded to a statement saying we dish run any screen plays, when we did. That response doesn’t warrant context. Though I agree with your general premise, your rant does not apply to this conversation.
Far from a rant on this end, and if it came off like one I apologize. But the statement you made-like most any discussion regarding a complicated team sport like Football-requires additional details to provide the proper amount of context.
If my inference was incorrect and you weren't looking for a path forward in the discussion that emphasized a lack of execution and focused on the player's being at fault while de-emphasizing what I believe to be a coaching issue, then my apologies.
I personally feel as if we have the Jimmies and Joes on this squad that are capable of beating UF. The weakest place for that argument to try and hold water is along our OL. But that's where X's and O's comes in to try and alleviate the concerns.
I don't believe we maximized our efforts there.
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