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re: LSU Offense - next area of improvement in week #2?

Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:45 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:45 am to
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2) prove the minimal amount of penalties wasn't a fluke.
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2) prove the minimal amount of penalties wasn't a fluke.
WTF
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 am to
Throw to the tight ends, throw across the middle.....and most important....make sure BDP is not still running the special teams.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9119 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:51 am to
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that's why they threw the ball 18 times out 70+ plays last week?


I think they did this because it was the first game and they didn't quite know what to expect. Wanted to limit mistakes, knowing that they were playing so many new personnel.

Now that this issue is out of the way, it's go time. Again I'm not saying you chunk the ball around all game. That's not LSU football. But you can be much more creative, we weren't creative in the least against BYU. That was vanilla offense, and you can't play like that against our upcoming opponents or you will be in for a battle all 4 quarters. We have the athletes to smash just about everyone on our schedule, if the play calling is creative. Let's start using our weapons, that's all I'm saying.

While Chattanooga isn't SEC competition, you can still practice what you will be doing or a version of that, in live action, with a team dead set on stopping you. Perfect practice makes perfect. Have to build confidence now, use the offense as though we are playing State. Then just change some things up once you play State. Show them similar stuff but break the tendency you've shown. If you threw a slant to score in this game, fake the slant, and use the corner or pitch it forward to Williams. Run more RPO but throw the ball. Let Etling keep the ball on some option type formation instead of handing it off. There were many plays last week that I saw, if Etling would have kept the ball there was a big play, or if we would have faked it to Guice and used the WR in the flat there was one on one, make that guy miss and it goes for a big gain. The play on 4th down where we handed the ball of to Moore, there was also a WR open in the flat with 1 on 1 coverage. If Etling would have faked that handoff then threw the football to that guy, he would have likely scored a TD there.

I simply want to see some mixing up of the offense, moving fast, having the defense go one way while the action is in the other direction. That will tell me that it's a creative play, and the defense has no idea what to expect. When I saw that Pitt offense, my eyes almost always went one way and the ball was in another direction, that's a good fake, fools the defense, the crowd, and the camera most times. That's being creative. Let's do that, get that going. I think that's all the fans want to see. You can be safe and aggressive at the same time. LSU has the personell to get it all done. That in my eyes is putting on a show. Being efficient, and keeping the defense guessing no matter who is on the other side. Use it all. Go go go
Posted by Flashtiger
Member since Aug 2017
176 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:53 am to
I want Etling to throw 3 touchdowns to WRs. Preferably to 3 different WRs, running 3 different routes, but I'll settle for 3 total.
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He did this numerous times last year.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:56 am to
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I also don't agree that passing against Chattanooga will prove we can pass in sec play.




You don't understand the concept of repetition and real game speed?? You don't understand that passing SOME against UTC and working on this part of the offense will help us down the road?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:05 am to
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1) speed up pace. Can we go into another gear other than "eat clock" mode?


we ran up tempo plenty of the game. when you have a big lead you slow the game down by shortening it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56259 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:13 am to
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we weren't creative in the least against BYU. That was vanilla offense, and you can't play like that against our upcoming opponents or you will be in for a battle all 4 quarters
You saw the Canada offense. That is what it looks like.
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The play on 4th down where we handed the ball of to Moore, there was also a WR open in the flat with 1 on 1 coverage.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2259 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:23 am to
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I want Etling to throw 3 touchdowns to WRs. Preferably to 3 different WRs, running 3 different routes, but I'll settle for 3 total.
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He did this numerous times last year.


He's never thrown 3 TDs to 3 different receivers; he had 3 TDs passing only once last year (Southern Miss), not numerous times, and those went to 2 WRs, not 3. His only other multi-TD passing games were one game where he threw 2 TDs to 2 receivers (A&M), and one game where he threw to a RB and TE (Louisville).

So 3 WRs catching TDs from Etling on Saturday was something that I thought was realistically doable but not previously done, which I thought was the whole point of this thread.
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1574 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:24 am to
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we ran up tempo plenty of the game. when you have a big lead you slow the game down by shortening it.


I get that. Simply suggesting I'd have a bit more confidence if we could play a different style as well.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:34 am to
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You don't understand the concept of repetition and real game speed?


Etling goes up against more speed in our 2nd team dbs than he will see this Saturday.

Chattanooga is vastky inferior to every single 2nd team sec secondary we will see this year. so no, imo passing against Chattanooga doesnt give me confidence we can pass against sec secondaries.

I'm not saying passing against sec teams doesn't help get us ready for other sec teams. I'm saying proving you can pass against Chattanooga doesnt give me confidence we can do it against sec defenses.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:35 am to
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I simply want to see some mixing up of the offense, moving fast, having the defense go one way while the action is in the other direction. That will tell me that it's a creative play, and the defense has no idea what to expect. When I saw that Pitt offense, my eyes almost always went one way and the ball was in another direction, that's a good fake, fools the defense, the crowd, and the camera most times. That's being creative. Let's do that, get that going. I think that's all the fans want to see. You can be safe and aggressive at the same time. LSU has the personell to get it all done. That in my eyes is putting on a show. Being efficient, and keeping the defense guessing no matter who is on the other side. Use it all. Go go go


agreed.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:04 pm to
Pitch another shutout on D. As long as we keep that up that's all the offense we need
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Chattanooga is vastky inferior to every single 2nd team sec secondary we will see this year.


I don't know that I'd go that far. But still, I'm a firm believer in repetition at full speed with all the variables that come into play in a game in front of a crowd. It can't possibly hurt us to pass a little more this weekend....thats all I'm saying.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Let's work out the kinks right now.


Exactly.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:22 pm to
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In games like this the coaches should indeed want to put on a show while winning the game. Keeping everyone healthy, building confidence, getting quality reps, ect. LSU can walk and chew gum at the same time. We have the horses in the stable, it's time to showcase that.

I agree that in big conference games you just win the ball game but in these types of games and if you can, have fun out there, while letting the fans see a show, that's what they come for and that's what they want to see. You can do both while implementing a strong gameplan. Especially against teams like this.

Canada can just run the offense the way he would against Miss State and we will destroy this team. You don't have to show all your cards either. No Matter what you show teams, they have no clue how you would actually attack them. You can show one formation they have been practices to defend, run some kind of fake out of that formation and have someone else attacking their defense to fool them.

It works both ways, they may have the film but you can break those tendencies to catch them off guard so I never understood the notion of "let's not show them our playbook" frick that, go out there and run your offense to beat the defense and look good doing so. LSU has that ability against most teams so let's bring that out Saturday. Let's just go kick some arse LSU, coach O and Canada. Put on a show while not showing much. LSU can absolutely do both.


First time we've agreed 100%
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:28 pm to
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Pitch another shutout on D. As long as we keep that up that's all the offense we need


But we know thats not going to happen.

You know that right?
Posted by PIGSKIN
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:24 pm to
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Posted by BHMTiger84
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:40 am to
Posted by vitamix
Member since Nov 2015
172 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:40 am to
Throw to the TE and throw some slants to a speedy white guy
Posted by BHMTiger84
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:41 am to
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