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re: LSU OC vs LSU OC - Jimbo vs E - Avg Total Offense - E's Crushin' It

Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Like for example the claim saban can only recruit and can’t coach.


Even better are the attempts to run down his time at LSU, “he only had one good season” without context like the state of the program or things like the academic center and football building or 3 all time recruiting classes but no he was only ok because we lost 3 games his fifth year

His time with the Dolphins also gets a little unfairly bashed. While certainly not Canton-worthy he did take a 2-14 team to 9-7 and the brink of the playoffs with no QB in a division with NE.

He also wasn’t fired by Miami and they were pretty pissed off he left
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Didn't "run" from your question. I walked away from your presumptuous arrogance.


Lol, right. Had nothing to do with very simple and basic questions that would blow your narrative up.

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Bet that happens to you a lot.


Sometimes, but that's expected when facts are on your side and run across individuals that are ignorant or full of false bravado.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98237 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:04 pm to
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How many first round QBs does Ensminger have under his belt?

Jimbo has 3 btw

4 in fact. Russell, Manuel, Ponder and Winston with 2 of those being the #1 overall pick.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:11 pm to
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bowl stats didn't count in totals until the '02 season, so you shorted Jimbo in these years:

00 - 4514 (374 in Peach Bowl)
01 - 6013 (595 yds in Sugar Bowl)

so LSU's season average under Jimbo was actually 5138 if my math is right.

also, as has been mentioned, we only played 11 game regular season schedules in 00, 01, 03, 04 and 05. 02 we actually played 12, and in 06, 12-game schedules became the norm.

so yards/ game, or yards/ play might be better metrics.

we comin' though, baws
I stand corrected on the shorter seasons. Well researched, sir. I had gone with the total offense stats on the LSU site.

Bottom line (for me): Jimbo is a good OC who had a couple very good years at LSU, and some that were pretty much average.

And I still haven't heard a decent explanation from anyone for what happened at Florida St that resulted in 6 losses in '17. Then 7 losses the year after Jimbo left. Looks like the program went down the tubes fast to me

(and no, "because Ole Miss" is not an answer. It's a dodge)



This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 2:13 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98237 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:18 pm to
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And I still haven't heard a decent explanation from anyone for what happened at Florida St that resulted in 6 losses in '17. 

I'm gonna go way out there on a limb and say that no one gives a shite because it has zero relevance to anything LSU is doing right now. But, I suppose that's just a guess. Try an FSU board and talk about it there. You may have more luck.

I guess you could start another Jimbo thread here and see if anyone answers it.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
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I'm gonna go way out there on a limb and say that no one gives a shite because it has zero relevance to anything LSU is doing right now. But, I suppose that's just a guess. Try an FSU board and talk about it there. You may have more luck.
I wasn't addressing my point to you. You have stated that you are 'unaware' of ongoing recent conversations about what a tragic loss it was missing out on Jimbo as LSU's HC. I'm addressing it to those on this site who seem to care deeply about Jimbo Fisher.

And I will hereby stipulate that you don't care.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:30 pm to
Right. And we were screwed at auburn in 2004 and he checked out the bowl game and we only played 11 regular season games. That shoulda been a 10 win season. If not 11.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:32 pm to
Lol.

I know right?

My guess is Jimbo knew he was gone and so did the admin and players so everybody was checked out. Plus he had a backup qb all year after Francois was hurt.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:34 pm to
Yep. Bingo. 4 first rounders.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:34 pm to
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And this thread will be a shitshow when they do.



This thread started out as a shitshow.

it's a buckeye jeaux special.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:35 pm to
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And I still haven't heard a decent explanation from anyone for what happened at Florida St that resulted in 6 losses in '17.


Wrong
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:37 pm to
My man earl lowering the hammer

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:39 pm to
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This thread started out as a shitshow.
It's a shitshow if you're an E&O hater AND a Jimbo Fisher fan boy.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98237 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:40 pm to
Yep. It's either 1 or 10 with nothing in between.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22284 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:40 pm to
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it's a buckeye jeaux special.


Dude has pivoted so many times he has no idea which was is up right now.

He started out comparing Jimbo and Ensminger as OCs. When it was pointed out that Jimbo's offenses at LSU were better than Ensminger's, he started throwing shite at the wall and bringing up Jimbo's last year as HC at Florida State. He makes Tiger Ree look like an informed and logical poster.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:40 pm to
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guess is Jimbo knew he was gone and so did the admin and players so everybody was checked out. Plus he had a backup qb all year after Francois was hurt.


They returned very little experience and had probably one of the most injury plagued team I've seen in recent memory. By the 5-6th game the defense looked like LSU in the bowl game.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
82241 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:43 pm to
Yeah the o line was terrible also.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:44 pm to
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Yeah the o line was terrible also.


Correct

If people think LSU had a bad line bc of injuries, it was nothing compared to them in 17. That's with your starting QB going down in gane 1 and going with a true freshman
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Eriq Killmonger
7th Ward, Wakanda
Member since Sep 2018
424 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Buckeye Jeaux


Based on your posting history, I realize there are a few topics you have zero credibility in regards to and those are...

1. Facts
2. QB evaluations
3. Math
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Dude has pivoted so many times he has no idea which was is up right now.

He started out comparing Jimbo and Ensminger as OCs. When it was pointed out that Jimbo's offenses at LSU were better than Ensminger's, he started throwing shite at the wall and bringing up Jimbo's last year as HC at Florida State. He makes Tiger Ree look like an informed and logical poster.
News Flash - All topics on the Rant bounce around more than a steel ball in a pinball machine.

You all should work harder and make more cash so you can donate more & out bid the next agricultural school who wants the same over-rated coach you guys want

IMO, LSU dodged a bullet by missing out on Jimbo.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 2:53 pm
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