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Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:37 pm to
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I really believe these McMahon activists truly don't want to see the basketball program get back to the Dale days, and to where we were headed with Wade.


I think it also can be in the .00002% chance that McMahon turns it around and is successful here, they can screech “Told ya so!” and claim to have always been right.

They also probably believe that Wade was the only coach paying players and believe Coach K was clean for 40 years at Duke.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 4:39 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37089 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:45 pm to
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The NCAA report that was released and posted during spring. It had NIL spending for the 24-25 seasons and had the revenue sharing projections moving forward. It was a multi page report that was posted in multiple threads. You also assuredly saw it.
I remember a report about revenue sharing that a lot of posters were confusing with NIL. Current reports have the SEC as an average of $10m+ with Kentucky over $22m. Do you dispute that? Do you think LSU was spending $10m for the previous 3 years?
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8306 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:46 pm to
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This is their trick, they claim criticism is fine yet any criticism that’s ever happened is dismissed and attacked


I've read this entire thread. You seem to think your criticism is dismissed if someone offers a counter argument and you feel attacked if anyone dares to disagree.

quote:

In a vacuum it seems reasonable but if you would compile every argument over criticism of MM you would end up with the mcmen saying that we have the first ever perfect coach who’s never made a mistake.


The hyperbole discredits you more than anything.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:01 pm to
No what happened was the NIL report and breakdown was on age 2 so people who didn’t want to look just said it wasn’t there and referenced the revenue sharing on page 1 only. I saw the comment about Kentucky NIL but there’s no confirmation, it was said by an announcer. NIL has almost doubled this year to last so that number could be in the ballpark but seems high. Like last year where reports for Arky varied between 6 and 12 mil for example.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:02 pm to
That isn’t hyperbole and I haven’t lobbed much criticism of McMahon besides that we’re not a good defensive team which is a fact. The counterpoints have been personal attacks and unprovable theories so your premise is false.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:04 pm to
The things you post are so incorrect it’s hard to even converse with you. You deflect from the 180 flip you guys pulled with chest to somehow money having anything to do with that player. It’s absurd the way you can’t have a real discussion.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:08 pm to
So yes, of course there’s a chance. We don’t have much positive to base it on and we don’t know how this season will turn out but so far it seems like he’s best when he fills the roster with veteran portal guys who have a more mature offensive game coming in but aren’t necessarily athletic. Thats how the 9-9 team was and that’s what this team is. Does he realize that’s his best shot, hard to know since he didn’t do that after the 23-24 season. The thing is he’s running out of time and if he can’t do it this year we won’t know for sure and it won’t matter anyway.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1258 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:19 pm to
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MULTIPLE top 15 national classes


its not just about who is coming in, but who is leaving. part of having a highly ranked class is volume, which McMahon had because he was replacing so many guys. a more accurate metric might be average player ranking.

or NIL budget
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1258 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:20 pm to
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No what happened was the NIL report and breakdown was on age 2


could you show us or will you just say we are trolls 87 times if we ask?

I promise you I have never seen this can you just link it?

try for once in your life not to lose your mind and just answer by saying sure I can show you, or no, I want you to just trust me
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:26 pm to
You have seen it, you were in the threads. mcmath just told you he knows the report I’m talking about. Go through the post history, I’m not doing it for you.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:35 pm to
“its not just about who is coming in, but who is leaving. part of having a highly ranked class is volume, which McMahon had because he was replacing so many guys. a more accurate metric might be average player ranking.

or NIL budget”



This is a self serving double standard. Unless you can prove he was the only coach to be in this particular situation and fail this is a non argument.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1258 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:36 pm to
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I’m not doing it for you


well we agree there, you wont lift a finger to prove your point.

I think its pretty clear the data you are describing does not exist.

prove me wrong!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:38 pm to
I already did prove you wrong and of course I won’t lift a finger for someone who 100% of the time traffics in lies, smears and hypocrisy. What would be the point, would you quit pushing your falsities? Of course you wouldn’t.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37089 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:40 pm to
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saw the comment about Kentucky NIL but there’s no confirmation, it was said by an announcer.
Just to touch on this one point, it was reported by The Lexington Telegraph Leader newspaper. But Kentucky is an outlier.Most of the top programs top off at about $15m. Reportedly Kentucky was only around $9m last year.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:59 pm to
Again because of NIL reporting being unreliable that $9million number is arguable and likely not accurate. Arkansas was the top spender nationally but that number was reported at anywhere from 5 to 12 million. The NCAA official reporting didn’t deal in exact amounts because there’s really no way to do that. The way it was done was a total university amount then percentages allocated. For example let’s say LSU’s was $25 mil total, the way it’s officially broken down was 70% to football, 20% to basketball, 5% to women’s basketball and baseball. Until revenue sharing kicked in there was no way to pin down an exact number. Now last season the biggest spender on any one team was Ohio State football at $21mil, this year Texas was #1 at $38mil I think so you can kind of gauge the increased percentage. Now the reporting that was sold to LSU fans by Woody and his puppet didn’t match up with any reported numbers for the other teams that were mentioned so to assume it was accurate for LSU is just being willfully dumb. Most likely going by the NCAA LSU spent between 2.5 and 3 last year which falls at the average for P5 programs and not the barely 1 million they tried to sell people on.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1258 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:05 pm to
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I remember a report about revenue sharing that a lot of posters were confusing with NIL


I think this may be the problem and the reason nobody can link me to the data on NIL
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66848 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:13 pm to
It’s the same report. Page 1 is revenue sharing projections but there’s a link to page 2 towards the bottom that had the NIL breakdown for every P5 team. Only a couple mcmen who didn’t want to see it claimed it wasn’t there. Everybody else read it and page two was copied and pasted after they started making that false claim.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4247 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:19 pm to
And the excuses for this LOSER keep on piling up....

Posted by LCrox
Member since Sep 2019
856 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:22 pm to
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And the excuses for this LOSER keep on piling up...


Spewing cr$p
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37089 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:22 pm to
I just did a big search and couldn't find the report.
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