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re: LSU may have third largest NIL collective per Brad Crawford of 247

Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8987 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:35 pm to
I thought Ole Miss did
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33307 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:44 pm to
But I was told by the Rant that Texas, A&M, UGA and Michigan were going to blow through all their NIL money and not have any left for the portal
Posted by KPP
Covington
Member since Sep 2015
898 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:46 pm to
This NIL ranking for us does not equal the spending we have seen so far for football players.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6725 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Of course they are the third largest. When you never spend money you just keep collecting.



We’re waiting on the right classes to drop the bag
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30756 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:09 pm to
It’s not the collective man. It’s about all these other side deals for all these other companies. Damn.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35050 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:13 pm to
I'm sorry but are we really gonna believe these numbers?

Bama is only 75% of us?

We're beating A&M?

Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
5123 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:16 pm to
The estimates vary from site to site, but they all of the seem to have LSU in to 3-10, so there has to be some accuracy in saying LSU has the money to make some big moves.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
10243 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:19 pm to
Great let’s go pay Livie Dunn more.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2288 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:21 pm to
Not correct in the slightest
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9542 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:23 pm to
I've donated more than that on my own, so I know it's not correct.
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
1376 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:47 pm to
That wasn’t Meeechigan that was, Portnoy.
Posted by Islandboy777
DAUPHIN ISLAND
Member since Jul 2023
3498 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:21 pm to
Use this money on a new Alex Box
Posted by TigerBanditjohn
Member since Nov 2015
71 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:28 pm to
This is actual collectives and NIL deals with businesses in place. This doesn't account for millionaires/billionaires a school can call up for extra funds. The state of Texas has 76 Billionaires, Louisiana has 9...let that sink in.
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:31 pm to
Then why do we suck? The coach?
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4130 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:49 pm to
quote:


It's the individual billionaires that are taking us out.


That's why collectives should disappear. Corporate NIL would still be welcomed along with revenue sharing and direct payments from schools.
Posted by The Blue Stuff
Member since Oct 2015
2477 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:51 pm to
bullshite list. No oregon. They no.1
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

doubled their spending potential

This is an understatement.
Posted by TigerWoodlands
The Woodlands
Member since Dec 2008
1207 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:18 pm to
So what’s Kelly’s excuse now?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12846 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:49 pm to
So I saw “per NCAA estimates” in the tweet and started digging to find the source of those numbers. I don’t think the NCAA had anything to do with those estimates.

The estimates come from ncaa-nil.com, which as far as I can tell has no actual connection to the NCAA. The bottom of each page on the site says:
quote:

Statistics compiled & edited by Patrick O’Rourke, CPA Washington, DC

No idea who this guy is, but I will admit his website provides some pretty detailed analysis of CFB financials/revenue sharing projections.

That being said, these estimates were built up based on a ton of assumptions. One key note on his website:
quote:

Accordingly, our estimates are not what specific collectives receive in contributions. Instead, we are providing what we believe to be a reasonable estimate of funding a collective(s) supporting the school might be expected to generate in funding, given the school’s historic level of support from boosters.

Basically he looked at the amount of revenue from contributions on each school’s NCAA financial reports. Then he looked at a study that gave an estimated total NIL market for collectives. He assumed that collective funding would be proportionate to booster contributions, which came out to 16% of contributions as the NIL collective estimate.

It’s a good estimate and at least he discloses the methodology, but it’s not based on any real-world analysis of the collectives themselves. It’s just a metric based on annual “contributions.” Brad Crawford probably shouldn’t be framing this as “per NCAA estimates” when that’s pretty clearly not the case.
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