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re: Lsu has a hitting problem

Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:13 am to
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:13 am to
Alright. First of all I want to say playing the game desnt really make you an expert. I was being sarcastic but truthfully the hitting problem can be lack of attitude which I think leads to confidence. I don't see that in our hitters. Whether it's coaching or lack of talent I don't have any idea, none if us are at practice to know what's going on. I know how to spell so don't hold me accountable to the spelling police. So this is only an opinion.I reall don't care to brag, never did and it was years ago when wooden bats were used.

I really didn't want to go there but i was not lying about my past. I will say only this and don't care at all whether anyone gives a rats arse or not. I reall don't care. When you play for coach Raymind Didier most of your games are won by one or two runs. Pitching and defense are how you win. Getting 5 swings at the end of practice rarely got you a lot if runs in a game. But you better know game situations because he gave you a test before every game. And as far as high school. Our high school won double digit state championships by the time I finished. I am sorry but I don't want to say anymore about that. But only said it because I wanted y'all to know I wasn't lying.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:15 am to
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truthfully the hitting problem can be lack of attitude which I think leads to confidence.

WHAT HITTING PROBLEM?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:19 am to
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RedTigerRulz

Blathers on and on about Miles in baseball thread; Claims I'm the one obsessed with him

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:20 am to
For the record, I like Miles as a person and a family man, think he's a great recruiter and has done great things for this school.
I just happen to believe he's not the guy to lead us into the future. If you wanna know why, with me its primarily his offensive philosophy...plain and simple.
You may not think that's a good reason but there it is.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:24 am to
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Claims I'm the one obsessed with him


Not necessarily obsessed.... but certainly over sensitive. Deny it if you want, but your posts during football season suggest something else.
Ya know u can talk about other topics in a baseball thread...the 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 11:26 am
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:36 am to
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How do y'all know it's 20 feet farther?


Test done at Washington State with a ball machine, both the raised seam ball and the flat seam ball was used.
The distance achieved using the same settings on the machine for both types of balls was measured.
This tested aerodynamic drag, not coefficient of restitution because that involves Newton's law of impact and no bat was involved. And the ball's in the test had the same COR rating, so the factor was the surface difference.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:55 am to


I get it
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:27 pm to
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Less drag means less break on a breaking ball. So, batters will see less variation in a curve and a fastball. I am assuming since the breaking ball pitcher will have less of an effect


That's what I was thinking, less movement on a fast ball as well, hmm. May be wrong though.

The flat seam ball is the same used in minor league and MLB now, and are able to get whatever spin needed for curve, breaking, cutter, etc.
There has to a surface difference even on the flat seamed ball that while has less drag, still has to have some surface variance which affects resistance to create spin.
College Pitchers going to the next level have had to make the adjustment. What I researched is that it is the grip, pitcher's switching to a flat seam naturally want to grip the ball tighter, which can lead to problems like skin blisters. But I would think that could also mess with release point until they become comfortable with the grip.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:35 pm to
Pitch selection and "approach at the plate" has been a consistent issue since Javi has been the hitting coach.

Our hitters never try to "work" the count or make pitchers, especially frontline SEC (or post season) starters, throw deep into their pitch counts. Buzz saw pitcher + swing away mentality = a lot aces with <80 pitch count in the 8th and 9th.

These are philosophy/coaching issues, not talent issues
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:45 pm to
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I get it


Is my science nerdiness showing?

Yeah, I actually sometimes enjoy thinking about science stuff whether its laws of motion or quantum mechanics and to quote a fav comedy series; "I like my theoretical physics stringy"
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5576 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:47 pm to
Lets watch one game the 3rd week into the season and make stupid assessments. Oh wait, the OP has taken care of that.
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 12:48 pm to
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Is my science nerdiness showing?



Yes. Are you cheering for Yale this weekend?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81761 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:10 pm to
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Pitch selection and "approach at the plate" has been a consistent issue since Javi has been the hitting coach.

Our hitters never try to "work" the count or make pitchers, especially frontline SEC (or post season) starters, throw deep into their pitch counts. Buzz saw pitcher + swing away mentality = a lot aces with <80 pitch count in the 8th and 9th.

You don't think any of our hitters work counts? I think some do and others don't. Austin Nola used to, Tyler Moore, Sciambra, Katz, & Mcmullen worked count last year.
This year, Laird, Moore, McMullen, and Robertson seem to work counts.

I think its more a player thing and less a coach thing. Granted, we could be better with our approach, but I don't think its bad.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60584 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:11 pm to
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just happen to believe he's not the guy to lead us into the future. If you wanna know why, with me its primarily his offensive philosophy...plain and simple


yep the prostyle, run first pass effieciently offensive philosophy will NEVER win championships.

quote:

You may not think that's a good reason but there it is.


It is a fricking terrible reason. And somehow it belongs in the thread about us not hitting last year.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:12 pm to
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It is a fricking terrible reason. And somehow it belongs in the thread about us not hitting last year.

And the icing on the cake is that we (the baseball team) were 1st or 2nd in every single major offensive category in the SEC last year.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:13 pm to
3rd in the West
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:14 pm to
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3rd in the West

wat. I was talking about baseball offensive stats.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60584 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:18 pm to
talk slow, we got alot of shite going on in here
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:20 pm to
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And the icing on the cake is that we were 1st or 2nd in every single major offensive category in the SEC last year


I think Mett might have had something to do with that.
Besides I thought you said it was against protocol to talk football in a baseball thread.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:21 pm to
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I think Mett might have had something to do with that.
Besides I thought you said it was against protocol to talk football in a baseball thread.

You're a special kind of dumb

Truly special

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