re: LSU football.. remember the glory days

You're comparing apples and eggs. Bad coaching and often less than stellar recruiting in the 1990s had brung LSU football to its knees. Saban rebuilt that program almost from the ground up.

By the time Miles got there LSU was a strong team already. His first 3 years were orchestrated mostly off the template Saban created.

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Bad coaching and often less than stellar recruiting in the 1990s had brung LSU football to its knees. Saban rebuilt that program almost from the ground up.

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Best 3 year stretch:

DiNardo: 26-9-1 (95-97)
Saban: 31-9 (01-03)
Miles: 34-6 (two different times 05-07, 10-12)


Just as Miles built off of what Saban did and made it better, Saban built off of what DiNardo did and made it better.

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By the time Miles got there LSU was a strong team already. His first 3 years were orchestrated mostly off the template Saban created.

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What about years 6-8, when he matched the same record as years 1-3?

There was a tremendous amount of luck in 2010. As has been pointed out numerous times on this board, the Tigers were only a wisp away from finishing 8-5.

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There was a tremendous amount of luck in 2010. As has been pointed out numerous times on this board, the Tigers were only a wisp away from finishing 8-5.

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Ok, rather than argue that ridiculous hypothetical, let’s just move to years 7-9, when Miles went 33-7 from 11-13.

Is that still credited to the mythical and long lasting Saban “template”?

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We were very lucky to have Saban. Too bad for us he had to scratch the nfl itch.

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Fueled by Huizenga's $$$$$$$$$$ and Bertman's failure to make a minimal effort to keep him at LSU.

How many multi-millions of dollars has "Going Cheap" cost LSU over the years? (Saban leaving....Miles buyout....Canada buyout)

Not to mention the lost prestige of multiple SEC and National Championships that LSU would've won if Saban had stayed. It most likely would've been like the current Bama dynasty.

That's what happens when you don't see the value in your product. You have to spend money now to bring in more money down the road.

Thanks Skip. (I'm not going to get into a bidding war with the Dolphins")

You cant let saban go eh?

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Thanks Skip. (I'm not going to get into a bidding war with the Dolphins")

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You’re blaming Bertman for Saban going to the NFL?

That was inevitable. It was always going to happen no matter what. If it wasn’t that year it would have been the next or the next.


It very nearly happened the year before with Chicago, and there were others.

If it wasn’t Miami in 05 it would have been the Saints, Houston, or St. Louis in 06, or replacing Parcells in Dallas in 07 or Blank tabbing him to go with Vick to Atlanta in 07.


There was simply too much money and interest in the next Belichick and his ego and dream of the NFL was never going away.

Very well said. It'd be nice if LSU had some folks in leadership with a vision and some critical thinking skills instead of a bunch of greedy, good ole boys who can't see beyond the end of their damn noses (looking at you Joe). You see other schools go get young, up and coming guys bc they've done their research and find those guys. Us? Nah, Fleck don't have enough skins on the wall yet to coach at LSU son. Soooo...we hire Ed Orgeron??!!!!!???? Visionary. Truly.

The root of the problem is evident on this board. There is a segment that will go to their graves defending this shite bc it's LSU and by God, Ed is one of us. That's the same mentality that keeps this program from maintaining a place at the elite level.

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