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re: LSU football ranked 4th for 2019 in S&P + or Herman v. Coach O-- you decide
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:39 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:39 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Because I watched a&m last year. Call it an excuse or whatever you want, lsu got fkd out of a 11 win season
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:41 am to TrevRollings29
LMFAO at this troll. Herman in year three is still rebuilding. Lol
You go troll Rollins. Unreal they keep you on this board. 100% negative. I assume you are doing what they want though.
You go troll Rollins. Unreal they keep you on this board. 100% negative. I assume you are doing what they want though.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:42 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Given the schedule, the talent on this team, what would be the bar for you?
My bar... your bar... the bar! WGAF,?!? I want LSU to win the west, win the SEC, make the playoffs and win the CFP. Whatever gets us there is my hope for the season.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:48 am to Earlpearl
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So you agree that O has turned the program around to the point of expecting the second best regular season in the last 60 years?
I don't believe Orgeron ever took over a program that needed to be "turned around." I would say he has built a team, which could get us back to the championship level we all hope for every few years, and everything is in place to make it happen this coming season.
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Speaks volumes about what O has accomplished
Yes, it does speak well of Orgeron. On the flip side, if he can't accomplish this, then there is a problem somewhere.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:50 am to beauxroux
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My bar... your bar... the bar! WGAF,?!?
I would say most fan bases give a frick. Do you think Bama doesn't have a bar set yearly? Clemson? shite, even not so great teams set a bar at 6 wins, to become bowl eligible. Why is it ok for other fans to expect a certain result, but for LSU fans you hate Orgeron if you set expectations?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:58 am to Earlpearl
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LMFAO at this troll. Herman in year three is still rebuilding. Lol
I'm not trolling man. I think Herman is a top notch head coach with a great offensive mind. He beat Saban at Ohio State. Upset Louisville while at Houston (and we have posters claiming this is one of Orgeron's top 5 victories with LSU's roster).
Herman was the coach at Houston while Orgeron had already assumed HC responsibilities at LSU with the same OC and DC he currently has. The team (Texas) that he took over, went 5-7 in 2015 and 5-7 in 2016. I understand you'd like to tell a fairytale that Ed O accomplished a major turn around at LSU, but if you look at Texas's record, that is OBJECTIVELY a MAJOR TURN AROUND and a rebuild.
Any person with any understanding of football - from a non fanatical standpoint - can see that Herman is trending up and will be a major, major threat if he continues to get recruiting classes like this year in combination with his offensive mind.
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ou go troll Rollins. Unreal they keep you on this board. 100% negative. I assume you are doing what they want though.
I'm really not that negative man. Ed O is the coach - I support that at this moment. I don't think he's earned an extension. I think that had he replaced Ensminger this year, that I wouldn't have much to disagree about. I think that given that he chose to fire Canada, and reelevate ensminger to that roll and keep him there after this year - that next year he should have all the expectations that Les Miles had in 2016. That's all.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:00 pm to TrevRollings29
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I think Herman is a top notch head coach with a great offensive mind
Absolutely no evidence to support this yet.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:01 pm to Earlpearl
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You go troll Rollins.
Sadly, he's not trolling. I think he's just young and inexperienced.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely no evidence to support this yet
Except that there pretty much is though.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:04 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Except that there pretty much is though.
There is no proof that Herman is a "top notch head coach." That's fantasy in your mind at the present time.
He may turn into one, but he's not shown anything yet.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Absolutely no evidence to support this yet.
I think speaking in an absolute about this topic is just as far from objectivity as me saying he is a top notch head coach. I listed his accomplishments, which are objectively better than Ed O's at this point. I agree - he has to sustain it to actually be a top notch head coach.
As far as young and inexperienced. I suppose that's all relative. Compared to you I probably am young as I am in my mid 30s. As far as inexperienced, once again im not sure what you are comparing that to. My entire professional career thus far has had the responsibility of holding people accountable for performance / results and that probably contributes to my mindset about football, whether right or wrong.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:05 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I stated the goals. Did you miss that part? I will restate them: win the division; win the conference; make CFP; and win CFP.
I never said anything about "you hate Orgeron, if you set expectations "
Pick your "bar". Call the season a failure if it's not met. You will feel better. Why use my goals?
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Why is it ok for other fans to expect a certain result, but for LSU fans you hate Orgeron if you set expectations
I never said anything about "you hate Orgeron, if you set expectations "
Pick your "bar". Call the season a failure if it's not met. You will feel better. Why use my goals?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:05 pm to NFLSU
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Texas will be ranked higher than LSU when we head to Austin week 2.
great then some in our fan base will shite all over a top 5 win on the road
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:07 pm to beauxroux
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I stated the goals. Did you miss that part? I will restate them: win the division; win the conference; make CFP; and win CFP
So you are saying the season is a failure if this isn't met? Your bar seems higher than mine. 11-1 may or may not mean we win the West. It also means we may or may not make the playoffs.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:07 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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11-1 or bust
I really wish they would start banning you clowns. Not because I don’t think expectations are valid, but because y’all post the same drivel in every positive thread to rile up the townspeople.
Players coming back? NO EXCUSES
Preseason all-SEC? NO EXCUSES
Hire Joe Brady? NO EXCUSES
Here’s an idea, celebrate when good things happen for the program and save your Orgeron/failure/no excuses BS for threads when he actually does something wrong.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:09 pm to TrevRollings29
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I think speaking in an absolute about this topic
He hasn't proven to anyone he's a "top notch" head coach.
It isn't subjective.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:10 pm to The Pirate King
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Not because I don’t think expectations are valid, but because y’all post the same drivel in every positive thread to rile up the townspeople.
Wish I would have spoken so clearly. My point exactly.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no proof that Herman is a "top notch head coach."
It would be pretty fair to say that Texas was in a much worse place than LSU when Herman and O took over, wouldn't you agree with that?
Herman has quickly turned Texas around. This does not mean I'm saying Orgeron isn't doing good with getting LSU where they need to be.
Herman has made his conference championship game. I'll even give you that it is in the Big 12, but the fact remains that he still made it.
Herman has won a BCS Bowl. Orgeron has done the same.
Herman did all of this with much less to work with when he walked in on day 1.
Does this mean he is an amazing coach? Not necessarily, but it seems that he is quickly has increasing expectations for that program. If he doesn't meet them, guess what? Texas fans will hold him accountable for that.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:13 pm to The Pirate King
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I really wish they would start banning you clowns. Not because I don’t think expectations are valid, but because y’all post the same drivel in every positive thread to rile up the townspeople
So because I said my expectations are 11-1 next season I should be banned? I did not say one negative thing in that post. So, let me get this straight, if somebody says something negative then you bitch and cry about them being negative. If somebody says something positive, you bitch and complain and twist it to mean something negative?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 12:13 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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It would be pretty fair to say that Texas was in a much worse place than LSU when Herman and O took over
Their composite talent rating is damn near the same. Might be 5-6 spots different.
Texas issue wasn't talent, it was simply attitude.
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