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re: LSU defensive starters in Texas Bowl and number of starts

Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:23 am to
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4784 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:23 am to
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Lol skewed? I posted their starts


Which is disingenuous. They are rotational players for a reason.

This roster is going to look very different next season. Just shut up and give this staff a chance to see what they can do with an offense that actually compliments them.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 10:26 am
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8087 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:26 am to
Now do the stats for the productive players that opted out, you dope. This has to be a shite troll job because I can’t believe that God almighty made someone so fricking stupid.
Posted by Shanks A Lot
Member since Dec 2023
1280 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:28 am to
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Which is disingenuous. They are rotational players for a reason

Lol at thinking they didn’t have the talent or playing time to defeat a middle of the road offense.

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This roster is going to look very different next season.


I would hope so.

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Just shut up and give this staff a chance to see what they can do with an offense that actually compliments them.


This is a sports message board lol.
Posted by Shanks A Lot
Member since Dec 2023
1280 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:29 am to
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Now do the stats for the productive players that opted out, you dope. This has to be a shite troll job because I can’t believe that God almighty made someone so fricking stupid.


Lol at thinking LSU should get dominated after a few missing starters against a middle of the road offense. Cry bitch
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:31 am to
They were missing their best 6 of 11 on defense. A backup QB, best receiver out, and the Backups of an already bad online. An interim head coach and offensive staff. All from a team that was mediocre when fully loaded.

They were playing a top 25 team from a P5 conference with ALL their best guys available. Don’t be ridiculous.

What is the point of accepting a bowl berth under these conditions? Once again, the timing of the CFB calendar screws the product on the field
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
4577 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:34 am to
All 5 starting OL played.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4784 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:34 am to
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Lol at thinking LSU should get dominated after a few missing starters against a middle of the road offense. Cry bitch


Man, you are desperate to skew this to be right on this. I literally do not care one iota that we lost that game and that the defense didn’t look good.

This team is going to be completely different next season and Baker has made tremendous improvements to this defense in the last 2 seasons. I believe we will see more improvement next season.

You are the one crying, bitch
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3598 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:48 am to
It’s a travesty lsu agreed to a contract for more money. Houston punches us in the mouth and he has no answer. Terrible!!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:50 am to
If by starting, you mean gotten a start as we cycled through arse O Line combos all season desperate to find something that works, sure. Josh Thompson completely opted out. Guys like Paul Mubenga and DJ Chester each had over 50 snaps. To imply that LSU was full strength up front is pretty disingenuous
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23188 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:53 am to

I remember a Saban defense in 2002 that lost a single player to off the field issues and were noticeably worse the rest of the season.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:56 am to
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But I do not understand yall saying Baker sucks and Kiffin needs to fire him already.


That isn’t my position. Baker had a bad game last night and I prefer to focus on the results rather than hypotheticals assuming the results would be different (if certain players were available).

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Missing your best players has an impact on everyone.


You are simply restating your position. Nothing you have said changes the fact that, given we were missing some key starters, we were pretty much ineffective against the University of Houston on defense. We won’t always be at full speed, I expect a DC that we convinced (paid) to not be a HC at a school like our opponent last night to be able to be more competitive with any scholarship players on our team.

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Your expectations for role players playing in a meaningless bowl game for a team that just fired its coach, has a new staff coming in, has players opting out, and others deciding where they are playing next year are unrealistic expectations.


What I saw last night were the same defensive problems that Baker’s defenses have had at LSU. I expect LSU to field a defense capable of beating the University of Houston, particularly with an early 14-0 lead. I don’t think expecting the coach that was not only retained, but given a raise, to have his side of the field prepared enough to win the game is at all unreasonable.

The game was meaningful enough to count toward our record.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4784 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:02 am to
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I don’t think expecting the coach that was not only retained, but given a raise, to have his side of the field prepared enough to win the game is at all unreasonable.


He did not have the talent or depth on defense this game. Period. Plus a whole host of other variables with coaching staff, opt outs, and players unsure about their future. UH is also not a bad team like you are insinuating.

At full strength this defense was very good this year. They were the difference in this team even making a bowl game. Do you not remember how bad the House defense was? Baker is a very good DC and honestly I am tired of the slander he gets, that’s why I am defending him so much in this thread.

Wait and see what they do next season. This game was meaningless. The roster is going to be very different next year.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 11:08 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:12 am to
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Keep dying on this hill and repeating the same low IQ talking points. You do realize 64th ranked offense is not bad, right? Not great but it’s still in the top half of the country.


You should stop bringing up IQ if you are going to have weak rebuttals like this. The point isn’t that they are bad, it’s that they aren’t great. They were above their own averages against LSU last night. They are a below average Big 12 offense and improved against LSU.

If our defense transforms into a below average unit when it misses half its starters, I’m questioning how good the coaching really is.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
8015 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:15 am to
Who cares. I was inclined to stop watching in the 3rd because it was late. Meaningless game
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:20 am to
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Which is disingenuous. They are rotational players for a reason.


The fact that this had to be explained to you shows your ignorance and shows that you lack the ability to understand simple concepts.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4784 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:23 am to
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f our defense transforms into a below average unit when it misses half its starters, I’m questioning how good the coaching really is.


Players matter
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17557 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:24 am to
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Gooden 11 starts at LSU (22 starts overall)


He got hurt fairly early In the game

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:28 am to
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He did not have the talent or depth on defense this game. Period.


His unit was not good enough to win last night.

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UH is also not a bad team like you are insinuating.


I don’t mean to insinuate anything. They were a mid major like 2 years ago. They are a very average team that has much more limited resources than LSU.

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Baker is a very good DC and honestly I am tired of the slander he gets, that’s why I am defending him so much in this thread.


He isn’t being slandered, his unit was bad last night and you are making excuses. There have been several other games during his tenure that followed the same pattern as last night. It’s concerning because it appears to be a scheme issue.

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Wait and see what they do next season. This game was meaningless. The roster is going to be very different next year.


It counted and you are still talking about it. Not meaningless.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:29 am to
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Players matter


So does coaching.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4265 posts
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:30 am to
they lost by 3 points. the true starters were not on the field. you are the embarrassment!
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