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TigerMonkey7
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LSU basketball Quad 1 wins so far

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Vs. #28 Belmont
Vs. #47 Wake Forest*
Vs. #16 Kentucky
Vs. #10 Tennessee

Current NET ranking: 4


Big4SALTbro
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map and other tards "wade doesn't know how to schedule"

lol suck it wade haters


LSUminati
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Got a real shot to get to double digit quad 1’s


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map and other tards "wade doesn't know how to schedule"


"BuT wE aReN't PlAyInG oN eSpN!11!!"

From the Auburn game on, LSU will be on ESPN/ESPN2/CBS for, at minimum 12 more games. The other games can easily be flexed onto national television.


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BUT WADE HASN'T SCHEDULED TOP 3 TEAMS LIKE AUBURN, THAT'S WHY WE LOST AT AUBURN CUZ WE WEREN'T READY!!!!!111!!1!1!!11!!


DallasTiger45
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Belmont is #28? Goodness gracious

That game was a spectacular asskicking


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Belmont is #28? Goodness gracious



they are going to dump truck their league play. They started 18-0 last year in the OVC. This year they won their first league game 102-62 and their second one 85-63


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Wake Forest keeps winning

Lester Earl is like



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Belmont is #28? That’s like a 6-10 seed. Pretty solid group


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Hold That Tiger 10
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For reference, nobody has 5 quad 1 wins. Only other teams with 4 are:

Baylor (#1 Net) - 4-0
Michigan St (#15) - 4-2
Bama (#22) - 4-2
Wisconsin (#23) - 4-1
Iowa St (#24) 4-2
Providence (#35) 4-1


You aren't going to find First Cut anywhere near this thread, since he was beating his chest about how terrible LSU's schedule was the other day.


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Say what you want but having a non-conference true road game would have help us against Auburn. We were shell shocked in the first 10 minutes against them.


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Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
#6 Auburn
#10 Tennessee
#16 Kentucky
#28 Belmont
#47 Wake Forest

Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
#77 La Tech
#88 Penn State

Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
#76 Ohio
#114 Liberty
#132 Texas State
#167 Ga Tech

Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353
$209 Oregon State
#265 Lipscomb
#282 McNeese
#338 Northwestern




What the committee puts the most value on is Quad 1 wins, and quad 3/4 losses. The look at that more than anything to determine tie breakers and what not when seeding.
Belmont isn't staying as a quad 1 win. Wake Forest probably will as they are the surprise team in the ACC.


Rest of the schedule current rankings:
#50 UF Quad 1
#93 Arkansas Quad 2 & 3
#22 Bama Quad 1 (twice)
#10 Tennessee Quad 1
#61 A&M Quad 1 & 2
#58 TCU Quad 1
#110 Ole Piss Quad 3
#82 Vandy Quad 2
#45 Miss St Quad 2
#228 UGA Quad 4
#100 USC Quad 2
#16 Kentucky Quad 1
#203 Missouri Quad 4


So key would be to not lose to Ole Piss, UGA and Missouri (I'd bet Arkansas won't be a Quad 3).
That's 7 Quad 1 games left, 5 of them on the road.


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Alt26
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BUT WADE HASN'T SCHEDULED TOP 3 TEAMS LIKE AUBURN, THAT'S WHY WE LOST AT AUBURN CUZ WE WEREN'T READY!!!!!111!!1!1!!11!!


As with most things in life it is not an "either/or" situation. And as with most things on this Board it has become one.

Even as we sit here today the non-conference schedule is one of the weaker (COULD end up be the weakest) LSU has played in the Wade tenure. Currently, LSU's non-conference SOS is the 2nd worst (USC being #1) of all teams ranked in the NET top 25. As far as Q1 wins are concerned the two current Q1 non-conf wins are a bit tenuous. Belmont sits at 28 (NET) and Wake Forest sits at (47). Both 2-3 spots away from being Q2 games.

The flip-side to the equation is that the SEC schedule might end up being the most difficult LSU has played in the Wade tenure. So while LSU has less chances for great wins in the non-conf. portion of the schedule, they could have more than average chances for such in the conference portion.

As for the loss at Auburn, I think you are being foolish if you don't think the environment and level of opponent didn't play a part in that 15 point loss. LSU did not play a single true road game before going to Auburn. It has always been difficult to win on the road in college basketball. It may be more difficult this season considering there are two classes that, before this year, had never experienced playing in a true road game atmosphere. Just on LSU's team alone 6 of the 8 man rotation had NEVER experienced a true road game before walking into Auburn (a very underrated home environment). It was also evident that the significant increase in the talent level of the opponent took LSU a bit of time to adjust to. Lest we forget, Auburn jumped out to an 18-1 lead. Would LSU have won the game had they played at least one road game in non-conf. play, or at least one or two top tier teams? Who knows (probably not)? But it would have prepared them a little better for the atmosphere.

The "magic formula" for seeding success is who you beat and where you beat them. Road wins are like gold to the selection committee. There is a reason in the NET formula road wins are adjusted up by a figure of 1.4 compared to 0.6 for home wins. LSU did not give themselves any opportunities to get one in the non-conf schedule (though they still play at TCU) Right now LSU doesn't have a single road win...but neither do Gonzaga, Duke, or Kentucky.

Would it have been nice to see LSU have a little bit stronger non-conference schedule to give a bit larger margin for error in SEC play? Sure. Has not having such hurt them thus far? It doesn't look like it.

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Say what you want but having a non-conference true road game would have help us against Auburn.

Possibly. Having Murray absolutely would have helped. Auburn not being a very, very good basketball team with the best player in the country would have greatly helped as well.


Hold That Tiger 10
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In years past, with the SEC not being good in basketball, it would have hurt us. That's not the case anymore though.

It's becoming similar to baseball, where you can play anybody OOC and you will still end up with an impressive schedule when it's all said and done because of what you have to run through in the SEC. If LSU does something crazy and wins the SEC with only 4 loses, they will be a 1-2 seed.


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Hold That Tiger 10
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Possibly. Having Murray absolutely would have helped. Auburn not being a very, very good basketball team with the best player in the country would have greatly helped as well


We will beat Auburn if we run into them in the SEC tourney.


lsu2006
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Hopefully. They're probably the best team I've watched this year.


Hold That Tiger 10
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Hopefully. They're probably the best team I've watched this year.


They are good, but LSU (with Murray and away from Auburn) can beat them. Florida gave them a run for their money. That scares me about Florida more than being a knock on Auburn though.

We just ran into them, on their home court, with no Murray, got off to a dreadful start, and that big white dude played out of his mind. 3 out of those 4 won't happen next time.


LSUgrad88
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As with most things in life it is not an "either/or" situation. And as with most things on this Board it has become one.


This is so true. It's pretty clear from a NET ranking standpoint, Wade scheduled really intelligently. From a fan standpoint, I would have really liked to see a couple of appealing non-conference games and at least one legit road game in non-conference. I think that helps you prepare for the SEC schedule. I am really happy with how this program has come along under Wade, but I'm constantly amazed at how so many on this board lose their mind when anything even remotely critical of Wade is brought up.


LSUgrad88
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As for the loss at Auburn, I think you are being foolish if you don't think the environment and level of opponent didn't play a part in that 15 point loss. LSU did not play a single true road game before going to Auburn. It has always been difficult to win on the road in college basketball. It may be more difficult this season considering there are two classes that, before this year, had never experienced playing in a true road game atmosphere. Just on LSU's team alone 6 of the 8 man rotation had NEVER experienced a true road game before walking into Auburn (a very underrated home environment). It was also evident that the significant increase in the talent level of the opponent took LSU a bit of time to adjust to. Lest we forget, Auburn jumped out to an 18-1 lead. Would LSU have won the game had they played at least one road game in non-conf. play, or at least one or two top tier teams? Who knows (probably not)? But it would have prepared them a little better for the atmosphere.


Very well said, very much fair and really impossible to argue with (though I expect many will).


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