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Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:09 am to GeauxTime9
Wade would pad his ooc with cupcakes to make his record look decent. The man can’t coach. Arkansas coach has accomplished a lot more and has been at Arkansas for 3 years with 2 elite 8. With less “talent “
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:09 am to tigerball9
LSU mens basketball will never truly be a top program because our fans have no interest in the sport and post like these prove it. LSU fans have no clue about college basketball and it’s not going to change any time soon. You could really tell a difference in IQ when you read the boards of basketball schools and the rant.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:17 am to supersaints9
they ran a ot of sets, you just want them to play that flex crap that teams have to play when no one can dribble
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:17 am to bugafor6
Same thing was said about baseball before Skip Bertman arrived.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:20 am to Tiger2tiger97
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The man can’t coach.
I disagree to an extent. I think he can, but just doesn't have the big picture yet. I think it would benefit him to learn behind someone for a bit.
I think he worked hard to fix the defensive deficiencies this year, but neglected other things in doing so. Adjusting during the season seems difficult.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:33 am to Topwater Trout
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works better when you have a guard that can dribble, drive, finish or pass
You mean like waters, mays, smart, or Thomas? Yea, good guard play is usually pretty essential to good offense.
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don't you think?
Which guard from North Carolina did those things last night?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:35 am to tigerball9
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1.) Will Wade is a JV coach compared to the 4 coaches involved. He was never gonna take us where LSU could be.
players never developed.
Eason didn’t improve!? Gaines? Even Reid improved. Going back Smart and Mayes both improved during their career as did Days.
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2.) If Efton Reid is a 5 star recruit then the Banchero and Griffin are 8 stars. They are so much better than him.
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Wade didn’t rate the kid a 5 star.
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3.) We cannot even cheat and get the best players. If Wade was gonna get caught cheating, he should have spent more $$ and get better than what he got!
Err, Kansas cheated too. And they’ve been doing it longer and obviously better with the media’s help.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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LSU's postseason play in this period don't agree.
Wade is the most overrated coach ever at LSU. Smoke and mirrors. You'll get better and forget he ever existed in a few years.
In 12 years prior to Wade's arrival LSU won a COMBINED one (1) NCAA Tournament game. Wade's team won more NCAA Tournament games (2) in his team's first NCAA Tournament at LSU. In the 24 years prior to Wade's arrival LSU won a combined 7 NCAA Tournament games. In the 5 years under Wade LSU won 3.
In the 24 years prior to Wade's arrival LSU had a combined six (6) NCAA Tournament appearances. But for the 2020 Tournament being canceled LSU would made 4 NCAA Tournaments in Wade's first 5 years. John Brady made 4 NCAA Tournaments in his 10.5 years at LSU. In two of those he had great success. In the other two his teams were blown out in the first round.
LSU never finished last in the SEC in Wade's 5 seasons. That includes Wade's first season where LSU was the preseason pick to finish last. Brady, Johnson, Jones combined to finish last (either overall on in their division) seven (7) times in 20 years. If you are keeping score, that is more LAST place finishes than NCAA Tournament appearances.
If you want to say Wade is not as good as Bill Self (a coach with 20 years more experience and who is the HC of the program with the 3rd most wins in this history of the sport) I will certainly agree.
If you want to same some on this board overrate Wade's success overall, I think you have a fair argument.
But if you can't recognize that Will Wade's five years at LSU were the most CONSISTENT period of winning the program has enjoyed in 30 years then you are incredibly naïve or just willfully disingenuous
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:38 am to tigerball9
Some of you guys are idiots.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:43 am to Alt26
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In 12 years prior to Wade's arrival LSU won a COMBINED one (1) NCAA Tournament game. Wade's team won more NCAA Tournament games (2) in his team's first NCAA Tournament at LSU.
Kinda seems to have plateaued there with lots of talent.
This was year 5, in basketball. He's good, not elite.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:47 am to Open Your Eyes
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You mean like waters, mays, smart, or Thomas?
Thomas? no not like Thomas but yeas exactly like Mays, Smart, and Waters...who on this years team could do that?
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Which guard from North Carolina did those things last night?
RJ Davis could definitely handle the ball better than anyone we had THIS year
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He's good, not elite.
That's kind of the point tho Rog, He was good and he had already showed he could adjust to fix problems(defense). He was promising and only 39, how good could Will be be at 59 like muss?
He might not ever gotten to that elite level but it doesn't take an elite coach to make the final 4. I think that is why most fans are bummed.
After the sweet 16 team the next 3 we improved our overall seed every year and looked to do it again. Just sucks that the train derailed imo.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
And the years before that he was top 4 in the conference got a first round bye in the sec tourney and won it HIS SECOND FREAKING YEAR. Find better patsys loser
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:56 am to tigerball9
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1.) Will Wade is a JV coach compared to the 4 coaches involved. He was never gonna take us where LSU could be.
players never developed.
I agree with the second part of this. He was never gonna take us where LSU could be because our administration doesn't give a frick about Basketball. I mean, a great coach like Wade can't overcome an athletic department who refuses to patch a fricking leaky roof in the PMAC or practice facility. But let's go ahead and give Bo Pelini a $6.9 million contract. $500,000 of that could have added a weight room to the practice facility and fixed the roof.
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2.) If Efton Reid is a 5 star recruit then the Banchero and Griffin are 8 stars. They are so much better than him.
Efton will get better. Some playes are slower to develop and that is okay.
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3.) We cannot even cheat and get the best players. If Wade was gonna get caught cheating, he should have spent more $$ and get better than what he got!
Wade invested his own fricking money to try to revive this shite arse program with zero basketball support from the fans and from the administration. Most if not all of the allegations were his first year on the job where he had to perform CPR on the program. He became better at playing the game but he was a 35 year old and needed to recusitate the program. Kansas, Duke, UNC, Nova, UCLA, have the benefit of an admin who cares and a crazy network of boosters who will never trace back to the head coach. Wade didn't exactly walk into that situation here.
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He was nbever taking us to the NEXT level.
I agree but it would have been because of the administrative support. I mean fricking Woodward got tired of Wade asking for better facilities but of course like I said let's pay retard O $18 million to leave and invite him fishing and retard Pelini $4 million to frick off after robbing the university blind in 2020.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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think he worked hard to fix the defensive deficiencies this year, but neglected other things in doing so. Adjusting during the season seems difficult.
He recognized the issues we had over the past few years and fixed them. His offenses have relied heavily on guards who can break down the defense (Waters, Smart, Mays) on the dribble and bigs who can crash the boards (KBW, Reid, Williams). It’s an extremely efficient system, as proven by our high offensive efficiency over his first 3 years.
The problem this year was the guards simply were not as good as they were in previous years. Pinson struggled at times and was injured a good portion, Gaines was a wildcard, Miller got hurt before the year. This did not allow the bigs much room to operate. Instead of being an athletic rim runner, we turned to Efton to try to be a creator. His post play and ball handling struggled against higher caliber players. He should have lived at the elbow but again it’s hard to get those looks if your guards can’t penetrate.
This offense, and Efton particularly, look a lot different with a Tremont or Smart running the point. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out that way. A lot of people commenting have very little basketball knowledge, and so when they see guards dribbling around struggling to create, they just call it streetball.
It’s like an air raid offense not having a good QB. You can adjust some, but when it’s your whole identity, how much can you adjust on the fly? We didn’t totally collapse, we were 5th in the SEC and a 6 seed in the tournament - our highest seed since 2005/2006… (excluding Wade)
So yeah, the guy can coach.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:01 am to Topwater Trout
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Thomas? no not like Thomas but yeas exactly like Mays, Smart, and Waters...who on this years team could do that?
Thomas didn’t pass but most certainly did the other 3 things better than anybody at lsu recently or anyone playing for North Carolina last night.
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who on this years team could do that?
Nobody. That means Wade didn’t get a good enough point guard to run his offense this year. It doesn’t mean his offense doesn’t work, as you implied when someone else accurately pointed out that North Carolina runs a very similar offense to wade’s.
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RJ Davis could definitely handle the ball better than anyone we had THIS year
And what happened to North Carolina’s offense LAST NIGHT when Davis played poorly?
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:02 am to doubleb
Rantards love to say “players didn’t develop” when going after coaches. Les Miles QB syndrome spreading to all other sports
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:05 am to tigerball9
WW = All hat and no cattle....Dale Brown Part II.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Kinda seems to have plateaued there with lots of talent. This was year 5, in basketball. He's good, not elite.
What disingenuous answer are you going to give to explain that Kentucky and Auburn didnt even make the tourney last year with far better talent?
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