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re: LSU Baseball: Lineup changes for 2010

Posted on 12/29/09 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 12/29/09 at 8:53 pm to
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i can't wait


I feel the same way. I drove by the stadium today (it appeared to be ready) and it got me so pumped.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81845 posts
Posted on 12/29/09 at 8:54 pm to
you know it wont be ready, don't do this to yourself
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 12/29/09 at 9:04 pm to
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you know it wont be ready


I can't believe that was only a year ago. The daily "it will never be ready" threads were awesome. And then the magic season: new stadium, CWS Champs, Louis Freaking Coleman!

Coleman was the heart and soul of that team. Who do you think will be the leader of the team this year? You can't really force this type of thing, it just happens.
Posted by cardee2003
Baton Rouge/Tacoma,WA
Member since Jan 2009
2633 posts
Posted on 12/29/09 at 9:06 pm to
I think Jones should pitch and play the field
Posted by tigermike200444
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
9106 posts
Posted on 12/29/09 at 9:09 pm to
gibbs and dean could be leaders along with ranaudo and ross
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81845 posts
Posted on 12/29/09 at 9:09 pm to
Hitting wise i think it will obviously be Dean, but pitching wise, I'm thinking Ranaudo. But alot of that depends on what we need Ott for. He could become our next Coleman/Bradford, where we need him to start and close and everything else. Then he is our heart and soul. It'll definitely be one of those guys.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 7:31 am to
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If the season were to start today, Ross.


That's scary..
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81845 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 7:54 am to
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That's scary..

not really
Posted by cover3man
Pierre Part
Member since Mar 2008
45 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:03 am to
Luquette no longer red shirting.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:21 am to
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not really


Appeared in 19 games (17 starts), posting a 6-8 mark and a 5.18 ERA in 83.1 innings with 22 walks and 76 strikeouts ...
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19644 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 10:55 am to
A couple line scores from last year on Ross. Games in which he pitched well while lacking a good third pitch last year in numerous ball games. I know many people have given up on Ross, but the truth is he's mearly cast out because he wasn't Coleman or Ranaudo. He was one of the backbones on a pitching staff that won the national championship.

Villanova 6.0 4 1 1 1
UCF 6.0 2 0 0 0
USCe 5.1 4 3 2 1
Ole Miss 8.0 2 1 1 1
Arkansas 6.0 10 3 3 2
Vanderbilt 6.0 8 4 4 4
Southern 6.2 7 2 2 1
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:25 am to
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if he gets on track with football he'll make a lot more money and will not have to deal with playing in the minors.
Baseball players make much more money than football players, and safety is one of the lowest paid positions.
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Im not sure why everyone says he's going to play baseball, or that he is some sure fire stud. Until he fully commits to baseball like Jared Mitchell did going into last year, he wont be a high draft pick.
But we'd have said the same thing about Mitchell his time last year. Is he a 'sure fire stud?' No one is. But he's not a 'sure fire stud' in the NFL either
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8921 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:32 am to
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last year was texas year.


And they return their entire rotation, not to mention some stud fielders.. LSU is the defending champion and a powerhouse for sure, but Texas is the team to beat this year.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:48 am to
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And they return their entire rotation, not to mention some stud fielders.. LSU is the defending champion and a powerhouse for sure, but Texas is the team to beat this year

This is certainly true. On paper Texas has to be the odds on favorite. However baseball is such a strange sport. Fresno winning in 2008 is a perfect example.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288099 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:07 pm to
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Baseball players make much more money than football players


again, Matt Stafford got 41 million in guaranteed money as the 1st pick in the draft.


David Price 2 years ago got a 5 million signing bonus and a contract over 6 years worth a total of 8 million dollars.


Safeties is not a low paying position, either. Laron Landry as the 6th pick has a 5 year 41 million dollar ROOKIE contract. And had 17 million dollars in guaranteed money.

you dont know what u are talking about.

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But we'd have said the same thing about Mitchell his time last year. Is he a 'sure fire stud?' No one is. But he's not a 'sure fire stud' in the NFL either


Mitchell gave up football and focused on baseball last offseason. Had he not i dont think he has the season he had.

Jones has the tools to be a stud, but he will never be unless he commits. Thats my point.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81845 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:12 pm to
Its hilarious how some fans think our players cant improve from year to year
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71493 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:13 pm to
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Appeared in 19 games (17 starts), posting a 6-8 mark and a 5.18 ERA in 83.1 innings with 22 walks and 76 strikeouts ...


Ross was just really inconsistent. He showed us he can be a great pitcher and go 7-8 innings giving up 0-2 runs and we saw him get yanked out in games in the 3rd/4th inning after giving up 4-6 runs. Consistency should improve this year with more practice and work.

Keep in mind Austin Ross was SEC pitcher of the week TWICE last year. How many other pitchers on other SEC roster can say that or more last year?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15343 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 12:33 pm to
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you dont know what u are talking about.
And 'u' apparently lack the capability for logical thought. The fact that Matt Stafford makes more money than David Price does not mean that football players make more than baseball players. It's like if I were to say that Alex Rodriguez makes more money than Lynell Hamilton. Same thing with you picking out Landry as an example of safeties - the average safety doesn't get picked #6 in the draft. And if Chad Jones is picked #6 I'll gladly eat my hat.
For baseball, "The average salary is $3.26 million, which is a 4 percent increase from $3.14 million in 2008." LINK

For football, "The median salary in the NFL in 2009 is roughly $770,000. In 2008 it was about $720,000. The Steelers have the highest median salary at $1.1 million, the Packers the lowest at $440,000." LINK

Now there's an apples to apples issue here as the first number compares means, the second medians. But even taking that into account, there's no question that baseball players are paid more. Plus they are much more likely to get guaranteed money - guaranteed contracts in the NFL are few and far between.

The counterpoint is that it's much easier (relatively speaking) to get on an NFL roster than a major league team - 60 or so spots vs 25. Chad Jones would certainly make someone's roster in the NFL, at least for a year or two. No guarantee he'd ever make it to the majors in baseball. this is something to consider. He should also consider that the average NFL career only lasts 3 years.

But if the question is who makes more money, there's no debate that it's baseball.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288099 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 1:57 pm to
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It's like if I were to say that Alex Rodriguez makes more money than Lynell Hamilton.



not really.

I am taking the 1st pick in the draft in their respective sports, and comparing the pay right off the bat.

There's a trickle down affect right on down the line if you follow it.


If you dont make it in the 1st round in the baseball draft, you wont even make 1 million dollars off the bat more times that not. Check the signing bonuses 2nd round baseball picks get.

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ame thing with you picking out Landry as an example of safeties - the average safety doesn't get picked #6 in the draft.


Ok. Bob Sanders was a 2nd rd pick, and with his 2nd contract is making almost 8 million a year and got 20million in guaranteed money.

Adrian Wilson makes 8 million a year, and got 19 mil guaranteed money with his new contract.(he was a 3rd round pick FWIW)

Do you want me to post Ed Reed and Polumalu's salaries too(late 1st round picks FWIW)??

Brian Dawkins is on the down swing, but he made a lot of money in the NFL. Same with Darren Sharper

Safeties are getting paid these days.

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For baseball, "The average salary is $3.26 million, which is a 4 percent increase from $3.14 million in 2008." LINK



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For football, "The median salary in the NFL in 2009 is roughly $770,000. In 2008 it was about $720,000. The Steelers have the highest median salary at $1.1 million, the Packers the lowest at $440,000


The fact that there are 53 man rosters in NFL plus a practice squad, 26 man rosters in baseball and the fact that there is no salary cap in the MLB will skew the numbers in baseball's favor.

The good money in baseball is extremely top heavy with the huge contracts superstars command. Go down the roster and start listing what relief pitchers and 5th starters and backup OF's make and compare it to what a starting safety in the NFL is making.

It's easy to say "he'll make more playing baseball". The average salary says he will, but more than likely, he wont. Battling through the minors, getting to the big show, that shite isnt easy.

Sure, MLB all stars command heavy salaries. Manny makes 20 million a year. Bay just signed a contract for 16 million a year. And so on. But you know how many players, when drafted, are expected to be "the next big thing", and never make it???? A lot.

Being drafted into the NFL, immediately playing and proving yourself for your next contract is a much better road than busing through Chattanooga at 2am wondering if you'll every make the MLB to get paid like Manny Ramirez or Jake Peavy or someone like that.

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guaranteed contracts in the NFL are few and far between.


signing bonuses are guaranteed and guaranteed money on new contracts isnt that rare if you become highly coveted as an NFL player.



This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 2:01 pm
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8867 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 2:32 pm to
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Dozar is the main backup at 3B and C. He's going to get his fair share of playing time.


Can't wait to see him play, he's progressed well through the fall and in the leauges up northeast
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