Started By
Message

re: LSU Baseball leading nation again in Homeruns

Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:58 pm to
Are stats analysis only valid within the last 10 years? It’s not like these numbers change much.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27825 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:00 pm to
I’m sure it’s not completely out of the ordinary but you can probably credit 3 guys for most of the walks and 3 or 4 for a large chunk of the strikeouts. Overall the team strikeout % could stand to be a little lower but on the surface it seems okay. But when you start talking about guys like Arnold, Thompson, Dugas, and Drost (even though he may now be sitting for a little while) their percentages are going to be heavily skewed toward strikeouts and I think what Lester means is that may not translate so well as we move into SEC play.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:04 pm to
I don't think it's some revelation that things will be tougher as we get to SEC play.

My big takeaway from these comparisons is thank god last year's team avoided the SEC. Would have been a blood bath.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

It’s not like these numbers change much.


So you think strikeouts in the major leagues have been relatively constant over the last 10 seasons?

You're joking, right?

The average number of strikeouts per team per game has gone up an average of approximately 25% in the last 10 seasons.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77385 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:05 pm to
Id imagine k numbers have gone up a decent amount from 2010 till now
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70231 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure it matters. The article is dated February, 2010.


The reason I asked is because I've seen similar things for Pro, College, HS (even with breakdowns by pro level) so I was wondering which of those it was. Essentially, those numbers are helpful, but the percentages should be slightly lower in college to meet the same statuses. Because the level of play is lower.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

So you think strikeouts in the major leagues have been relatively constant over the last 10 seasons?

You're joking, right?

The average number of strikeouts per team per game has gone up an average of approximately 25% in the last 10 seasons.
Well this article was written in Feb 2010. So I looked at the 2009 K rates and it looks like 18% was right at average. That number jumps to 23% for 2019. So I can see a few percentage adjustment needing to be made, yeah but it's not earth shattering. I used a graph google provided without thinking it had to be that much different. And like Project is saying, it's pros anyway so it's not perfect regardless.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Essentially, those numbers are helpful, but the percentages should be slightly lower in college to meet the same statuses. Because the level of play is lower.
If they need to be lower in relation to the pros, then they may be spot on for college since the pro average is about 23% now.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 1:20 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

2009 K rates 18% was right at average
quote:

23% for 2019
So about a 28% increase? Yeah, you're right.

A 28% change is insignificant.

I hope you don't use a 28% margin of error in your "nuclear security" job....
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

I hope you don't use a 28% margin of error in your "nuclear security" job
Why is that in quotes?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27825 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

I don't think it's some revelation that things will be tougher as we get to SEC play.

That’s obvious but my assumption is that he’s looking a little deeper than that.

If the regulars in our lineup all had similar BB and K percentages, and most were within some standard range of the team percentages, you would probably expect the numbers to be slightly worse in SEC play but nothing too drastic.

But we have some of the guys mentioned above with K percentages likely above 20% combined with BB percentages less than 10%, maybe even less than 8%. They will need to work hard to even keep those consistent during SEC play and not have them become even worse. Then if the guys currently piling up walks start to come back to earth those two things combined could spell pretty significant trouble for the offense.

Again, just my interpretation of his stance and with the assumption that us having one group of guys that walk a ton and strikeout little, and another group of guys that strikeout a lot and walk very little, is a bit out of the norm. It may be more normal than I think, sounds like a good project for you to compare tbh.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

So about a 28% increase? Yeah, you're right.

A 28% change is insignificant.
It basically would mean adjusting the chart by one spot. So 22% would be considered average and so on. I said that wasn't earth shattering. And it's not.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66465 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Are stats analysis only valid within the last 10 years? It’s not like these numbers change much.



Yeah but teams are a lot more
Willing to trade strikeouts for power number than they were 10 years ago.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Again, just my interpretation of his stance and with the assumption that us having one group of guys that walk a ton and strikeout little, and another group of guys that strikeout a lot and walk very little, is a bit out of the norm. It may be more normal than I think, sounds like a good project for you to compare tbh.
I'm not sure what the norm is whether 1 or 2 outliers is normal or 3 or 4 like we have. In terms of the current team Thompson, Arnold, Milazzo and Dugas are the high K guys. Drost is as well obviously after this last weekend but I have a feeling his time is going to limited like you mentioned. The reverse of those 4 are Crews, Beloso, and Morgan (if you count HBPs).

Players......... K%..... BB/HBP%

Thompson...22.2%.... 9.5%
Arnold..........23.5%....5.9%
Dugas..........21.3%...12%
Milazzo........25%.......7.5%

Crews..........9.5%.......21.4%
Beloso.........6.8%.......24.3%
Morgan........10.9%......22.0%

This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 1:37 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Yeah but teams are a lot more
Willing to trade strikeouts for power number than they were 10 years ago.
No doubt. I even said as much in my post about Lester. I just didn't think it would be as much as it was to change the chart by even one row. Lesson learned.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27825 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:40 pm to
I’m not serial downvoting you fwiw.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 1:41 pm to


It's been happening for years. I can guess who it is. And it doesn't bother me. As if it could make me stop posting or even change the way I post. What can I say? It's nice to have fans.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29434 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:17 pm to
Our bullpen has put a damper on my excitement for this season. Well,its put a damper on my expectations.

It's almost not worth getting fired up about until the relievers start pitching better.
At least we have good starter and hellmers.also we have that
Freshmen money . I liked that other frosh too ,I think its brady?

Fontenot will get it back and he looked better this weekend.hilliards a good change of pace out of the pen if hes on.

Vietmier, hasty, and george are as woof as it gets.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:24 pm to
I downvote all of ell’s posts on principal
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:35 pm to
When I see at least 2, I add one so I feel included. Then I log into my alter and add another for good measure.
first pageprev pagePage 6 of 8Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram