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LSU and the OC situation

Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:54 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:54 am
It's no secret Canada wants a shot at being a HC. Whether there is a rift with him and O or not, it is what it is. He is one of 3 considered for the ULL job.
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Chad Morris is likely to be named Arky HC.
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With that, you can expect Dan Enos will move on. If Canada does take the ULL job I hope the announcement is after the 20 December early signing period. I would then seriously consider Enos as OC. Enos is good at developing QBs. He did a solid job with Austin Allen and is able to scheme a solid power running game. His tenure at Arkansas:
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Backed by his pro-style offense that features a balanced attack, Enos has turned the Arkansas offense into a threat through the air and on the ground. Over his two seasons as OC, Arkansas is one of two FBS programs with 3,000-yard passer and 1,300-yard rusher in both 2015 and 2016. Even more impressive, the Razorbacks are the only program to accomplish the feat with a different quarterback and different running back in each of those seasons.


I hope it's all moot and Canada remains, but I see this as the best possible option if he goes.

Flame away.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64587 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:57 am to
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Whether there is a rift with him and O or not,


get that shite outa here.


And thanks for trying to make a rift.


This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 7:58 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12222 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:57 am to
I have seen nothing from any reliable source that Canada is currently looking for another job of any sort anywhere.
If there is such a source, I would appreciate seeing someone post it.
Posted by MamouTigers
Mamou
Member since Dec 2007
299 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:14 am to
What situation??? The one everyone is making up like a fake girlfriend lol
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1015 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:20 am to
Alabama is built to stop the power run game. Fournette and Guice have been completely useless against Alabama, so I don't know why it is believed that less talented backs will be productive. I'm not sure if Arkansas has ever scored a point against them, but I know it hasn't been many. Only fast paced, quick passing, spread offenses have had success against their defenses. I would stay far away from Enos. Is Alabama the only team that we play? No, but it has been proven that you have to beat them to win this conference.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5478 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:24 am to
ULOL, lots of Canadians there.
Posted by paper tiger
acadiana
Member since Feb 2006
1074 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:32 am to
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What situation??? The one everyone is making up like a fake girlfriend lol


I am pretty sure the OP is talking about the situation where Alleva had to sit down Orgeron and Canada after the Troy game exposing a rift between the two.

Then after the regular season Orgeron was quoted about Canada looking for a head coaching job without any accompanying statement he hoped Canada would stay.

In the two weeks since then, despite being in the midst of recruiting and rumors galore about Canada’s future with LSU, Oregeron has not given his coordinator any public vote of confidence.

It’s understood in football that coordinators are generally not discouraged by their head coaches for moving up to a head coaching job. That’s fine and normal. But that doesn’t preclude a head coach from openly supporting his coordinator and trying to get him to stay.

Orgeron hasn’t made similar statements about Aranda leaving.

The rift between Orgeron and Canada is not a message board created rumor. The meeting with Alleva happened. What we do not know is how deep the rift runs and whether it’s repairable.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:34 am to
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Alabama is built to stop the power run game. Fournette and Guice have been completely useless against Alabama, so I don't know why it is believed that less talented backs will be productive. I'm not sure if Arkansas has ever scored a point against them, but I know it hasn't been many. Only fast paced, quick passing, spread offenses have had success against their defenses. I would stay far away from Enos. Is Alabama the only team that we play? No, but it has been proven that you have to beat them to win this conference.

When we had a balanced attack with Mett and Co. we did just fine. That's what Enos has done at Arky with less talent. It has been a mixed bag, but last year Austin Allen threw for 400 yards vs Bama. Let that one sink in.
Posted by TheBoot1
Walker
Member since Dec 2013
98 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:35 am to
I don't know if the situation is to the point that there is no way that Canada returns.
But I know for a fact that there is a rift. Coach O and Canada do NOT like each other at all. I've been told that by someone really close to the situation.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:41 am to
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I don't know if the situation is to the point that there is no way that Canada returns. But I know for a fact that there is a rift. Coach O and Canada do NOT like each other at all. I've been told that by someone really close to the situation.

Agreed. I don't want to fan rumors, but I also am not going to pretend there isn't at least smoke there. We know Canada had some interest in the Rice job, but backed off. O came right out and gave Canada his blessing to find a HC job. You can't ignore that.

I'm simply trying to be pragmatic about this and see a possible way forward.

Again, best case scenario is nothing happens and Canada stays. If that is the case then O needs to come out and quell the rumors and do it soon.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:41 am to
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If Canada does take the ULL job


Has there been any indication that any school wants to make Canada their HC? There's no options for him unless he's willing to take a huge paycut.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:49 am to
Make a list of the teams that have scored points against Bama and that have beaten them. If our offense is molded to be like any other style of offense, then it is a huge mistake and the loss column will continue to grow. Arkansas has not beaten them in many years. Last year was definitely an aberration, but their offense has been equally as incompetent as LSU's over the years prior. Ole Miss, Clemson, and Auburn has had the most success. Obviously their philosophies should be instilled in to our base plan. If Orgeron wants to get away from spread concepts and return to power football, then it will be a quick death. We can't continue to put a ton of pressure on the defense every game and hope that 10 points is enough. That style is just not successful anymore. Oh and what was Mett's record against Alabama? Obviously just fine isn't good enough. The defense gets the blame for a couple of those games, but the offense just needed 1 first down to finish the game without giving the ball back to Alabama. I just want an offense that can actually win a game and handle some pressure.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:51 am to
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Has there been any indication that any school wants to make Canada their HC? There's no options for him unless he's willing to take a huge paycut.

Kiffin took a paycut when he took the FAU job. My OP has a twitter from a CBS reporter indicating Canada as one of 3 candidates and I've seen a couple other articles mention Canada, but obviously that's all speculation.

Canada just went out to Cali and met with Matt Corral a top QB prospect who considers LSU 1 of 4 choices so that would be a good sign Canada doesn't bolt. I've said before that it's best for O and Canada for Canada to play out his contract and build a better resume' before he seeks a HC job. I just don't know how anxious Canada is to jump ship.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:57 am to
IF, and its a big if because he is still LSU's OC, you could certainly do worse than Enos as a replacement.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36775 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:00 am to
Becoming the HC at THE University of Louisiana would see Canada take a huge pay cut. You can axe that one.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6495 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:01 am to
Enos fricking sucks
Posted by Pmtiger
Member since Dec 2014
837 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:07 am to
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What we do not know is how deep the rift runs and whether it’s repairable.


The rift exists. But is managed and under control. And not impacting the program.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:11 am to
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Make a list of the teams that have scored points against Bama and that have beaten them. If our offense is molded to be like any other style of offense, then it is a huge mistake and the loss column will continue to grow. Arkansas has not beaten them in many years. Last year was definitely an aberration, but their offense has been equally as incompetent as LSU's over the years prior. Ole Miss, Clemson, and Auburn has had the most success.

Arky has not had the WR, OL or QB talent and certainly not the defense to beat Bama. We have significantly better talent on offense and defense. We need consistent QB play and improved play in the trenches. You can still incorporate spread, wildcat or whatever into the O and still be a power run game/pro-style.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:14 am to
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The rift exists. But is managed and under control. And not impacting the program.

That's great if true. Do you have some insider knowledge that this is the case?
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:15 am to
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Becoming the HC at THE University of Louisiana would see Canada take a huge pay cut. You can axe that one.


not true. Hud was making $1M plus
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